2025 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup [R]

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  1. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The CR wasn't good, that's why. What he allowed Portland to do is inexcusable, not to mention the no call on an obvious foul in the box and the inconsistency of foul calling (sometimes just breathing near someone would get a call, others would take a full mugging). I assume there was an assessor watching this game and I would think that is going to be a difficult conversation for him.
     
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  2. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Portland is always like that regardless who the coach and the players are. Pushing, cheap shots, sneaky. And the inconsistency of MLS refs lets them get away for way too long.

    I hate LAG as a rivalry and the history between the clubs. I hate Portland because the way they play on the field.
     
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  3. elhula

    elhula Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    san jose
    I'm guessing the Portland players can't stand Phil Neville, what an annoying piece of crap he is, never stops yelling , constantly trying to direct players on the field while play is going on, they must just tune him out during the game, Harkes laughing at Neville after the game while Neville was throwing a temper tantrum was hilarious.
     
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  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The mass and prolonged confrontation of the linesman was pretty egregious.
     
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  5. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    The goal is credited to Skahan. Can't really tell he actually took a touch. And look at Portland's LB #5, another chippy player, he made a bad pass to MAK, could not dispossess Judd, then rushed back to his box to stand on the goal line to keep Skahan onside. Brilliant! He deserves an assist.
     
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  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #231 JazzyJ, May 21, 2025
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    I couldn’t attend the game, so I watched the broadcast (still have only seen 1st half). You could clearly hear Neville constantly yelling like a madman and throwing f-bombs one after another. I was thinking about how miserable it must be to play for him. Seems like a bit of a sociopath, even when he’s calmed down and doing postgame. I get serial killer seething rage vibes. No thanks.
     
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  7. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yes Skahan took a touch, otherwise it looked like it might be going wide. But yeah what a great team goal. Shows you what fresh legs can do. Beau pressured the ball, Kaye intercepted and immediately (one touch on the interception?) passed to Judd, who made a run while Kaye made a run into space on his left. Judd to Kaye, Judd crashes the box and draws a defender, Skahan makes far post run, Kaye hits it across goal mouth, goal. Portland’s GK came up holding his hand like offside until he noticed his teammate standing practically inside the goal.

    I had a bad feeling we were going to lose - one of those games where we blow a bunch of chances and then concede against the run of play.

    BTW I wonder if the Hernán sub was planned or a tactical decision. He wasn’t bad but not great either.
     
  8. elhula

    elhula Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    san jose
    Yeah he is simply annoying, i mean telling a player run here or run there during the game is just annoying and i would just tune him out, even my wife who is no expert noted the difference between how Neville runs the game and how Bruce does it.
     
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  9. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I said that I've never seen a coach behaving like that. Someone said "Vermes?" and I said, not even close. Peter is intense but he doesn't spend the whole game appearing to be on the verge of a meltdown.
     
  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Soccer America stated the Quakes used mostly first stringers.

    I don't think that is an accurate statement.
     
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  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It is. Espinoza, Beau, Harkes, Romney, Munie, Jones, Costa, Bouda, Edwards, and Bouda are all starters, at least until Daniel, Wilson and Chicho come back. It’s unclear whether Floriani or Rodriguez is the starter at this point. Hernán will probably be a starter at some point not hasn’t reestablished that spot yet.
     
  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I noticed that we seemed to be failing to win 50/50 ball / challenges in the game, especially early. Our guys just seemed to be hesitating or late to react. It looked weird. Then I realized that Portland was probably sneakily pulling them back just enough so that they couldn’t win the ball. There’s that critical moment where who reacts the fastest wins and if you can hold a guy back without shirt tugging just at the right time and subtlety enough that a foul isn’t called you win the ball.
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Why aren't Arango, Lopez and Martinez playing?

    I thought Lopez injury was healed.
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're asking why Lopez isn't playing? Lopez who STARTED?
     
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  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I didn't see him but I was distracted and mostly saw the second half.

    I missed many games but as far as I know, Lopez though has been out quite a bit this season.
     
  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I thought Hernan was bad, and I’m among his biggest fans.
     
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  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #242 falvo, May 21, 2025
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    That explains the reason on why I missed him.

    Guess I didn't miss much.
     
  18. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was there with a decent view... it was Skahan's goal... I think it would have went wide without him as well. Check the angle at 0:50 of that clip.
     
  19. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought he was pretty bad but didn't think we had better on the bench. Judd wasn't any better and the game changed in Portland's favor after that so whatever happened tactically wasn't good (Portland also stepped up the press all over in the second half and we weren't dealing with it well).
     
  20. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My son and I were some of the few, but proud who attended the game (actually not too bad for a Tuesday game). Quakes were the better team in the first half with Bouda having two excellent chances on goal. Portland was the better team in the second half, but good defending from the backline and Edwards kept them in the game. Agree the CR was poor and missed the PK. His handling of the scrum with the AR was horrible. We left after regulation and I watched the remainder of the game at home. Quakes controlled overtime and deserved the goal/win. Credit to Judd and Kaye for creating the goal and Jack for sticking his foot out.

    Hate to say it, but Edwards had a good game. Overall, the defense played well, but both Romney and Jones had some key mistakes in the second half which almost gave Portland goals. Fortunately, Portland's finishing was like the Quakes. Surprised Espinoza played the whole game as he had died by the end of regulation and not coming back on defense.

    Hernan was horrible. He is a shell of his former self. All of the bad and none of the good.

    Credit to Arena and staff for managing through injuries and the number of games. Team is playing hard, and will execution is mixed, they are getting results which is the sign of an improving team.
     
  21. TyffaneeSue

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    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    We talked about EEJr a lot during the game. After his prior howlers, I was wondering if Bruce would replace him. Instead, we saw a different keeper last night -- someone who played with confidence and didn't hesitate to make a move vs waiting for the ball to come to him. I don't know how he would have looked in PKs so glad we didn't get there, but based on what I saw last night, Bruce is capable of working miracles.
     
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  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I didn't think Edwards could possibly be as bad as he initially looked because Bruce is a good player evaluator, and he was a GK - he should know. And we actually paid $150k GAM for the guy. Still not totally convinced, and his career stats are terrible, but at least it looks like he's capable of playing well. I think for GK's it's kind of like strikers - they need to get confidence to go on a roll, and things can also spiral the other way (see Pellegrino).
     
  23. John Jussen

    John Jussen Member

    May 21, 2016
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not sure what the center was thinking not calling it, but I've worked with the young AR many times over the last five years.
    After watching the broadcast today it confirmed what I saw. The young and upcoming AR (which I've worked with many times) correctly called the foul that the center missed. You could see him instinctively move his right foot on to the field to set himself up for his position for a penalty kick. The center referee must have overuled him in the insuing response from Portland. The correct call, imo, would be holding which continued into the penalty area and should have been a PK. You could hear the Quakes coaches in the backround screaming for the PK.
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think the ref was following the "marriage counseling" style ref advice given by TyffaneeSue's friend: "Say 'I hear you' and set your boundaries!"
     
  25. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The refs also missed the clear handball on a shot by Beau in the 2nd half. Unfortunately the camera angle we saw was from behind but it looked pretty clear, and the color guy on the broadcast (who is that guy - seems like he does every single USOC game somehow - has he been cloned?) said it was a "clear handball".

    Anyway, I think the Quakes were the better team throughout and with any competency in finishing that could have been a 3-0 / 4-1 game. It was 29 shots to 14, 9 to 5 on SOT, 12 corners to 2, etc.

    I thought Benji played really well in his short stint. He played two really good long passes to put guys through, one just after he went around a guy by I think megging him. I've been wondering where Bruce would use him, and looks like he's gonna be a wingback. Kind of crowded in the wingback department though. We have: Jones, Costa, Ricketts, Lima, Marie, Benji, etc.

    Skahan just barely got a touch on that ball from Kaye. It was literalliy just scraped with his studs.

    Anyway, this win just proves that there's more than one way to Skahan a cat.
     
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