News: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup: General [Multiple Rs]

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  1. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    it's definitely not the same thing, just ask the euro clubs. also what merit was it based on for LAFC to host the game? it should have been at a neutral sit. and yes I'm sure lots of those americanista fans went home crying for that massive failure.
     
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  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #977 HomietheClown, Jun 20, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2025
    Just ask Chelsea fans if today felt like a neutral site though.
    Atmosphere and fans can effect things.
    So sure, it was a LAFC home game in many ways but in some ways it was not when most of the fans are rooting for Club America. MLS team usually lose in that situation.
     
  3. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    fan's don't make it a home game. traveling, sleeping in a bed thats not yours (doesnt matter if its 4-5 stars), playing in a stadium not home, playing in a field condition that you don't always play in.
    this whole narrative of support on the stand =/= home game.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I never said it officially made it a home game. Just that it mentally does not feel like a home game which usually gives the advantage to the Mexican side against MLS sides in that specific type of knockout situation.
     
  5. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Depends where you are travelling from and to what part of Asia or Africa.
     
  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Pertaining to the venues of past World Cups which is the context of this conversation Brazilian teams and Argentine teams would rather play in USA than Japan and UAE and such.
     
  7. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    not really, even mexican players have gone on record saying that thinking is not true
     
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  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The conversation is not about what Mexican players think. It is what USA teams do and MLS does within these situations.

    Take a look at USA-Mexico for instance. 9 times out of 10 if USA chooses to play in Rose Bowl or Coliseum against Mexico they will lose and feel like it is not a home filed advantages. That is the reason why they play in Ohio where they win the majority of the time.
    It is all psychological and really no team likes playing in front of thousands of fans from other countries. It is why Argentina sometimes avoids Buenos Aires to play Uruguay and plays in Mendoza or Cordoba.
     
  9. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    sounds like a boring game tbf, im skipping this one too
     
  10. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    way to move the goal post. yet you're still wrong.


    LAFC looking horrible down 1-0, greedy by the tunisia player could have been 2-0
     
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  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #986 HomietheClown, Jun 20, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2025
    It is not moving the goal posts at all. It is talking about what feels like a home field advantage and what does not. And when it comes to USA teams playing in front of thousands of fans yelling "Mexico" or in this case "America!" by the Americanistas it is far from an advantage.
     
  12. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    #987 schrutebuck, Jun 20, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2025
    I think this still stands. But LAFC fans should be frustrated.

    The lack of intensity stood out to me. LAFC didn't come across as if they were playing in a must-win match at a World Cup.

    Though credit to Seattle fans for having a better turnout in their second match.
     
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  13. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    At the very least Liga MX should’ve been able to choose to replace Leon with another league team. It seems that representatives to this tournament will be mainly Liga MX teams anyways. I don’t see the MLS winning any champions leagues soon.
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    What a fantastic counter by Boca. Golazo.
     
  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Olise gives Bayern the lead 2-1.
     
  16. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
  17. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    URU never played in Cordoba. Regardless, each CBOL federation restricts visiting fans to a small percentage of stadium capacity.

    Changing venue of home qualifiers has to do less with *crowd vibes* and more with stadium renovations/sanctions. Or for cash-grab events, like ECU moving from Quito to Guayaquil.

    27 years since CBOL began all-vs-all qualifiers:
    - ARG had 8 home qualifiers vs URU across that period: 2 in Mendoza, 6 in Buenos Aires.

    Overall, ARG moved its home qualifiers from Buenos Aires 10 out of 70 times.
    The experiment stopped in Feb 2022:

    - 0 of 8 in 1998 qualifiers.
    - 0 of 9 in 2002.
    - 0 of 9 in 2006.
    - 1 of 9 in 2010 (L at Rosario).
    - 2 of 8 in 2014 (Ws at Cordoba and Mendoza).
    - 4 of 9 in 2018 (Ws at Cordoba, Mendoza and San Juan; L at Cordoba).
    - 3 of 9 in 2022 (W at Cordoba; Ds at San Juan and Santiago del Estero).
    - 0 of 9 in 2026.
     
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  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Not much futbol from Boca but they were energized by the crowd to keep this thing close.
    First loss by a CONMEBOL side but it could have been worse. 2-1
     
  19. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    I think there was a foul on Oliseh before Merentiel's great goal
     
  20. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    awful timing, middle of the night, but it was a very good game, definitely worth getting up. it was my first night game this time and I do not regret it.
    bayern is strong and one of big favorites, no doubt about that but if they lost musiala tonight it might be a huge setback.

    my problem is I simply can’t force myself to take this tournament seriously, too many things went wrong and FIFA screwed up many things as well. even the weather god doesn‘t seem to like it:confused:
     
  21. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    On the tiebreaker, looks like I was mistaken - they are using head-to- head. So, indeed Botafogo are safe unless they lose by 3 goals in their last match (for e.g.). If GD was the 1st tiebreaker, a 2 goal loss would've been enough.
     
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  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think this forum needs a separate thread to discuss what does and doesn’t feel like home advantage, judging from my sofa. :D
     
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  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Well, the UCL coefficient rankings give a more realistic top 8/12 picture than the UEFA ones. That's what they have been using for this tournament, for every region.

    But yeah, 4-year window is too much. Should be 2 max. And just because the tournament is played every 4 years, doesn't mean they cannot use 2-year coefficient rankings.

    To give a sense of how absurd it is to use a 4-year ranking, we are already deep into qualifying for the 2029 CWC if the same formula is used. ManUtd are essentially already out of consideration for the '29 CWC (unless of course they win the CL in 2027 or 2028). And yes maybe they'll still suck in 2029, but they shouldn't already be out of qualifying.
     
  24. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Lightening threats aside, I hope visitors take precautions against the summer heat for the next 5 days.

    Regardless of whether you are in the stadium or not, take care of yourselves.
     
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  25. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    heard it will be 40 degrees celcius for Wydad Juventus
     
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