News: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup: General [Multiple Rs]

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Paul Calixte, Dec 7, 2024.

  1. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wouldn't say they don't care. Some do and some not so much. PSG does care about winning it. Borussia I don't think they do too much and also hadn't played a match in a month. I think different teams have different ambitions ... I think that's a fair assessment.
     
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  2. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    other thing I wonder is whether the hot ass humid american summer is too much for certain people.

    I put up with this shit on the daily and ive played in this weather too so I know how it is, its not for everyone. Playing in nice cool weather is definitely nicer for many reasons
     
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  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yes. It's definitely a bitch. West Coast is typically not humid ... but I see today was 78%. It makes a difference.
     
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    A big congrats to Botafogo.

    Definitely didn’t see that coming…
     
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  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  6. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    that's why I was surprised to see the game stopped for a passing cloud in a blue sky
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Not the best comparison. Nobody is at risk of dying from a snowflake.
     
  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Clouds with lightning. Anyways.

    Who would have imagined that CONMEBOL teams might benefit from playing on this side of the world rather than playing far away in Japan or Arab Nation.

    Well, color me shocked!

    Hmm, in general playing in the Americas could actually help teams from the Americas while teams traveling from far off continents and time zones may suffer a bit.

    Crazy.
     
  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    But at the same time Botafogo x Atleti will be very interesting. Atleti need to win by two goals to stay alive. For all the hoopla around Botafogo, they could still be travelling back to Brazil on Tuesday.
     
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  10. Cosmin10

    Cosmin10 Member

    Feb 28, 2020
    Ibiza
    With head to head as the main tiebreaker, Botafogo would have to actually lose by 3 goals to get eliminated. They would still make it if they lose by a 2 goal margin.
     
  11. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Goal difference is the main tiebreaker though. So, 2 goals would be enough.
     
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  12. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I am not sure it's helps them since they are still pretty far from home (Botofogo-LA > Paris-LA), but at least the playing field isn't tilted against them like in the other club WC.
     
  13. johan derksen

    johan derksen BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 14, 2004
    Venlo, Netherlands
    Well, it's still the group stages. Both Worldcup finalists Argentina (1-2 to Saudi Arabia) and France (0-1 to Tunesia) lost a game in their group stages.
     
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  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It is all relative.
    Traveling to the USA is way better than Asia/Africa.
     
  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I think there are several ways they could improve the quality of teams, but the main one is how the 8 non-CL winners from UEFA are determined, since this has a big impact.
    Reaching the last 16 of CL in 2021 shouldn't be a big factor as it is in RB Salzburg's case. I would just simply take the 8 recent champions of the 8 highest-ranked leagues or something like that. 2nd place if that team qualified already as a CL winner.
     
  16. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    For sure.. I still expect European teams to dominate knockouts.

    I’m just saying that I know a certain crowd already has their excuses loaded, rather than being willing to give non-UEFA sides credit for their performances
     
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  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    In the old days, Botafogo would already be world champions and planning the parade in Rio. Now they need to master five more games.

    In fact, this does remind me a lot of the 2012 Corinthinas win. Scraping by the first opponent and then finding another gear against the European champions.

    Speaking of finals, we got a replay of the 2001 final today. Bayern against Boca. And after yesterday, who's to say what will happen...

     
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  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Unfortunately Boca is just a shadow of that team. But I do respect their manager greatly and think he will have them prepared. Might not be enough though, but we shall see.
     
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  19. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    At work until 4.

    Have to probably miss everything
     
  20. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I think Boca is just going to make this a grind. Only way for them to keep the game close.
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    All I know is that Andres Cantor is going to go bananas if Boca pull off the upset/ get a point.
    Even more than when Messi scored yesterday.
     
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  22. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Not sure I want to start introducing domestic league champions without continental success.

    To me that is "skipping" a step and undermines confederation club tournaments. The fact that three-peat Mexican champions Club America are not here (leaving the overall controversial play-in aside) is rather comical. You need to get it done in the CCC. Nowhere else. Like it or not.

    I enjoy having lesser European clubs present, but if we have to change something then let's raise the country limit to three. Had that been in place this time we would have gotten the following clubs:

    1. Man City (Winner)
    2. Real Madrid (Winner)
    3. Chelsea (Winner)
    4. Bayern
    5. PSG
    6. Dortmund
    7. Inter Milan
    8. Liverpool
    9. Porto
    10. Atleti
    11. RB Leipzig
    12. Barcelona

    Better? Juventus, Benfica, and Salzburg miss out.

    Still a Red Bull team in there. :rolleyes:

    And Porto remains. :mad:
     
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  23. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe there can be more playoff games like the one between LA and America so that teams like Bacelona and Liverpool can get in the dance.
     
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  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    But when would you schedule these? And who gets to host? :rolleyes:

    Not sure adding more games to an already bursting calendar is the way to go.
     
  25. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Host it a couple weeks before the tournament.
    Lots of these teams played friendlies leading up to this Cup so during that time have Bacelona play the whatever Champions from whatever Country.
     

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