News: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup: General [Multiple Rs]

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  1. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Yup. Best result of a non-euro team so far. And it should be very embarrasing to Inter.
     
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  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I generally agree, but we did get our first sub-20K figures yesterday:

    11,974 @ Seattle for River Plate - Urawa
    3,412 @ Orlando for Ulsan - Sundowns

    I'm aware of the Orlando storm delay but that number surely includes tickets sold?

    @HomietheClown - I thought such attendance figures weren't possible in the US, the best host nation of any sports game played ever? :D

    The reality is NFL venues are much too large for most CWC games. Certainly in the group stage.
     
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  3. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Indeed. Only the fourth time in CWC history that the score is tied after 90 minutes between a UEFA club and team that's not from Conmebol. Will we see the very first regulation defeat of a UEFA club later today between Pachuca and Salzburg?

    Also, today is one of two historical final replays in the group stage.

    2001: Bayern Munich - Boca Juniors 1:0 AET
    2022: Real Madrid - Al Hilal 5:3
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Well, you were wrong as usual then.

    I never said that this Club World Cup would have the best attendance for every game combination possible known to mankind.
    Just that it is better to host than most other countries for most matches. And so far it has been great.
     
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  5. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anybody could have predicted that Ulsan vs. Sundowns would not draw a crowd anywhere. That was not in an NFL stadium. The Seattle match was another 3 pm weekday start. They should have scheduled the group stage with simultaneous matches in order to have most games in the evenings.
     
  6. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That makes sense, especially given the crazy size of the WC now.

    Certainly true that with FIFA nothing is given, all is possible.
     
  7. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    #782 bigsoccertst1, Jun 18, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2025
    Brah, what anti-CWC agenda are you talking about?

    FIFA adopted price-gouging practices during CWC ticket sales. Fans responded accordingly by not buying overpriced tickets: sales were bad enough that FIFA gave away "5 tickets for USD 20" for its inaugural 2025 CWC match.

    12 CWC matches were played until yesterday: 7 matches had attendance below 50% capacity.

    - Ulsan-vs-Mamelodi; 13.37%
    - River-vs-Urawa; 17.42%
    - Chelsea-vs-LAFC; 31.18%
    - Flamengo-vs-Esperance; 38.16%
    - Fluminense-vs-Borussia; 42.10%
    - Botafogo-vs-Seattle; 43.86%
    - Monterrey-vs-Milan; 44.94%

    - Palmeiras-vs-Porto; 56.09%
    - Bayern-vs-Auckland; 81.35%
    - Boca-vs-Benfica; 85.81%
    - PSG-vs-AtlMadrid; 89.87%
    - AlAhly-vs-Miami; 94.07%

    So go ahead and blame dissenting opinions/facts, while putting lipstick on this pig.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #783 Nico Limmat, Jun 18, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2025
    I know Orlando wasn’t a NFL stadium. That was more of a general comment. So far only three matches had crowds larger than 50K. And I fully agree with your second point. For a “new” tournament the hosting market should be accommodated the most.

    Glad to see Infantino in the Ulsan-Sundowns “crowd”. That should hopefully put an end to any 48-team expansion ideas.
     
  9. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Is this tournament the new format the World Cup will be in?
     
  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    in a news release Tuesday “close to 1.5 million tickets” have so far been sold. Across 63 games, that would be less than 40% of the roughly 4 million cumulative capacity.
     
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  11. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's disingenuous to look at % capacity of stadiums since soe of these stadiums are huge. Better to look at actual attendance.
     
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  12. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    No. This is the old World Cup format.
     
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Man City up 1:0 already after two minutes.

    As defending champions, they are still wearing the old 2023 CWC winner badge. I therefore think we finally have statistical clarity. The FIFA Intercontinental Cup counts as a new competition. Not a continuation of the old format CWC.

    That means Real Madrid has eight club world titles (not nine), and Tigres remains the only Concacaf CWC finalist. :D @Paul Calixte @jared9999
     
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  14. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Wydad are looking good @pogoss

    And another good fan turnout as well. Should be eye-opening to some in the Americas to see just how big some clubs are in the Arab world.
     
  15. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    we started badly but we are not looking like Auckland so far !
     
  16. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Really should have scored there!
     
  17. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    2nd big opportunity that was !
     
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  18. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    As disingenuous as actual attendance, perhaps?

    By using actual attendance, a well-attended TQL match (21.1K, 85.8%) is ranked worse than a poorly-attended Mercedez-Benz match (22.1K at 31.1%).

    If seat occupancy percentages are disingenuous, then why FIFA moved River-Urawa fan seating to places where the TV broadcast could find them?
     
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You can point some of these matches were poorly attended by citing actual attendance. 40k fans in a 80k stadium in a game not involving the big globalized European teams for example is good attendance. Yet as a % value, it's only 50%.
     
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  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    HT: Man City - Wydad 2:0

    The second City goal a bit anti-climatic after some good Wydad moments, but there you go.
     
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  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty close to the attendance for Peru-Haiti in the 2016 Copa América Centenario at that same venue... all due respect to Seattle, but that venue tends to be a poor draw for international games not involving a home team (Sounders/USMNT). We'll see how River/Inter does...

    Shoulda been 3,416 but I couldn't get the time off :oops:
     
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  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Conmebol fans: Bring back the Intercontinental!

    FIFA: **brings back the Intercontinental, with no seeding privileges for the Libertadores winner**

    Conmebol fans: No, not like that!
     
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  23. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    Wydad's budget is 2% City's so I wasn't expecting better score at halftime anyway.
     
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  24. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Which 40K fans attended a non-UEFA CWC match so far?

    All I see is AlAhly-vs-InterMiami (60.9K at 94.0%), where tickets were given away by FIFA.
     
  25. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That’s a shame. What other matches are coming to Orlando?
     

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