News: 2025 FIFA Club World Cup: General [Multiple Rs]

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  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi everyone,

    Now that we have greater certainty around this upcoming tournament...





    Let's house discussion of this particular edition here. To start: that's a lot of games in my home state of FL. Personally, I'd love to catch a game with one of the marquee sides, but the sicko in me may just go cheap and catch Ulsan/Mamelodi :D

    And with the oddity of two West Coast venues (a product of FIFA negotiating to carve up the US with Concacaf, what with the simultaneous Gold Cup), I do like the solution of placing two groups out there entirely to cut down on cross-country travel. I just can't wait to hear the howls out of Argentina for Monterrey getting a home base, rather than FIFA granting the privilege to River :ROFLMAO:
     
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  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps... but all three of them are more accomplished internationally and have a stronger squad top-to-bottom than Miami. The weaknesses of the "host" team are well-documented, and the reason that they're not even an out-and-out favorite to win the Concacaf Champions Cup... MLS will either have to (finally!) loosen its roster restrictions and let Inter Miami fix their defensive issues with their checkbook, or Beckham's scouts will have to head down to some remote Paraguayan academy, unearth every hidden gem they can, and hope Mascherano can coach them into a world-class back line overnight o_O
     
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  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Kind of odd that the last 4 matches of the tournament are in Metlife stadium (QF, both semis and the final). Could have mixed it up a bit.
     
  4. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    less travel is better. I like it all in one place.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Could have put one of the semis in Philadelphia. That would have kept travel to a minimum.

    I don't get the Miami game in Atlanta given they are "hosts" (but also don't care). However, a club like Juventus playing in the smallest venue (Audi Field) is a bit of a headscratcher for me. No surprise in Liga MX's Monterrey getting a "home base" in California but the less popular Leon and Pachuca did not get that treatment.

    Also, some of these venues (Seattle, LA, and Philadelphia) will hold matches every other day for six consecutive games. How will the field hold up - especially where it's resting on turf?

    Let's see what ticket prices are like. This needs to look in the stands for Infantino.

    In other news, let's see if Fluminense gets relegated today. :D
     
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  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    There are few things I hope for in this competition. One of them is the complete dismemberment of Miami and their contrived presence in the tournament. On and off the field. May even have to pick up an Al Ahly kit for the opening match. :D

    Also - as posted on the earlier thread. Historical finals being replayed in the group stage:

    2001: Bayern Munich - Boca Juniors 1:0 AET
    2022: Real Madrid - Al Hilal 5:3
     
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  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Its a bit odd but maybe its done to get Boca 2 matches in Miami. Miami would get a big crowd anywhere, but Boca probably not.
    But who knows? Inter MIA are just there to make up the numbers anyway, so they can't complain.
     
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  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Boca in Miami argument makes sense.

    By the way, how do people in the US feel about kick-off times? Quite a lot of afternoon games on work days. Yet another reason to keep ticket prices reasonable.

    PS: Fluminense avoided relegation today with an impressive away win at Palmeiras.
     
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  9. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Messi is a big draw anywhere and it puts him in a bigger stadium in Atlanta. Also it gives Miami a greater variety of teams.
     
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  10. pogoss

    pogoss Member

    Wydad Casablanca
    Morocco
    Jan 15, 2017
    Japan
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Morocco
    That was a very harsh draw for my Wydad but it will be exciting to play Man City and Juventus. I am thinking of going there if I can. It will be my first time in the US.
     
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  11. soccer_23

    soccer_23 Member

    Feb 6, 2014
    The 12pm/3pm kickoffs might be brutally hot and humid. And during the weekdays you lose all casual fans who might have otherwise attended. These games won’t sell out no matter what the prices is of who’s playing. Hopefully they keep the upper levels closed initially.

    I hope FIFA keeps realistic expectations.
     
  12. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not in Seattle, mind... but the general point stands. Those are TV-network-friendly times for at least one of the teams involved, regardless of its effect on attendance. Let's see if the '26 World Cup applies the same logic.
     
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  13. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They aren't all friendly times for the viewers back home. Such as Chelsea vs. Espérance or Manchester City vs. Al-Ain at 9 pm EDT. Mainly they're applying the national team World Cup principle of avoiding overlaps outside of the last group match. Seems like some FIFA hubris to expect that the audience wants the same kind of scheduling for this one.
     
  14. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quite a few games are at noon during the week. America in not like Europe; we work yearlong. We will see what they do with pricing because Empty seats are a terrible look if youre trying to negotiate TV rights in 4 years .Infantino is trying to create a new "world cup" and we dont have pricing and the only sales on the 19 will be for group games.
     
  15. soccer_23

    soccer_23 Member

    Feb 6, 2014
    I think they might be extrapolating too much from the annual big attendances for the regular summer friendlies. Those are at night and almost always involve two big Euro clubs.

    Most of these midweek afternoon kickoffs would have trouble selling out an MLS stadium let alone an NFL stadium, unless it’s literally Man City vs Real Madrid. We shall see….
     
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  16. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They’ve been doing this a long time. They have something planned. Who knows but FIFA finds a way. But tickets have to be priced right .
     
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  17. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    interesting, where do you have this from?
     
  18. jesta

    jesta Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    that sounds like common sense .... but you are forgetting we are talking FIFA universe here, that's where any logic stops.
    also, if saudis really want it FIFA will hardly be able to refuse, and as we learned since 2018 there is no bidding process for anything anymore and the whole selection process is nothing but muppets clapping.


    but let's find out first how the inaugural tournament is going to be, until now it doesn't look promising, and definitely not as a money-spinner FIFA was hoping to get
     
  19. tedmak

    tedmak Member

    Manchester City
    Argentina
    Nov 11, 2017
    Am a Man City fan and planning to go to the CWC next year.
    Got to say I am a bit hacked off that they are going to non-WC cities.
    City could be playing three matches in Orlando. Regardless of opinions of Orlando (I thought the downtown was pretty good FWIW), it is next to useless in terms of planning for 2026 logistics-wise.
    The WC stadia are not baseball fields so what is the restriction to using them more intensely?
     
  20. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Fluminense avoided relegation - will play in Sudamericana instead. :laugh:
     
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  21. ratters

    ratters Member

    Leicester City
    England
    May 19, 2016
    United Kingdom
    Nat'l Team:
    England
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  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    They won't be. In the recent Copa, even for Bolivia v Uruguay the tickets were expensive when everyone knew that the stadium would be half capacity at best.

    The main hope here is that tickets are sold through FIFA and not ticketmaster.
     
  23. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no Ticketmaster.

    Following the draw and release of the match schedule, the initial ticket sales phase for all 48 group-stage matches will open on Thursday, 19 December 2024 at 10:00 ET (16:00 CET) exclusively via FIFA.com/tickets (where fans can already register their interest in purchasing tickets)
     
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  24. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    aren't the stadiums air conditioned like in Qatar?

    Beidies, playing at 12pm on a hot day is better than playing at 6pm.
     
  25. marianelah

    marianelah Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, only Atlanta has a roof. NY, Miami are hot and humid in summer. LA is hot and the rose bowl was built in 1921.
     
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