2025 CWC

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope.

    Euro snobs will claim the Yurpeen teams weren't motivated and/or the players are tired after the end of a long season, while the MLS and Brazilian players are in peak form mid-season so it doesn't count.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh? How does any of that impact the Concacaf Champions Cup winner?
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Misread CCC as CWC.
     
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  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #129 Nico Limmat, Nov 7, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2024
    Neymar has played about eight games for Al Hilal since September 2023 and cost a fortune. He’s once again injured for about six weeks. Anyone spending big money on him at this point is a fool.
     
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  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
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  6. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    The official name is the FIFA Club World Cup 2025.
     
  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It depends how much money they are willing to spend. Reports of Santos trying to get him for January are already circulating. Doubt Santos would pay him a fortune. Also reports of him going to Miami. I'm sure Miami can pay him way more than Santos but no where near what Saudi pays him. He found the perfect gig in Saudi Arabia.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Suarez has done considering his career was supposed to be over 2 years ago due to a dodgy knee.
     
  9. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So just one more team to qualify (Copa Libertadores winner) with Inter Miami being chosen as the host team? Also kind of funny that one of the teams in the final has three former MLS players (Savarino, Almada and Gregore)...that's kind of like another MLS team in the tournament right? :p
     
  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Atlanta have confirmed it.

    Inter Miami at the 2025 CWC is a commercial gimmick.
     
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  11. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As is the entire CWC - so not sure it matters.
     
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  12. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    And still I support FIFA by choosing Miami as the host team, this is a business and none other MLS team will caught the worldwide attention as them just by having Messi in the team and I say this as Galaxy fan,
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And when Miami fail miserably they'll ask "is this the best you've got?".

    And the answer is probably yes.
     
  14. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    They won’t fail, you’ll see it on the stands, fifa wants to do the same thing in liga Mx with Pachuca, and I don’t blame them, this is a business and Pachuca will fail in the stands.
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #140 Nico Limmat, Nov 11, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2024
    Yes, it is a business. No one is arguing otherwise. But there comes a point where sporting integrity has to be preserved. This isn’t pro wrestling after all. And the inclusion of Miami crosses that line.

    The MLS Cup winner is the main league champion and should therefore have gotten the host nomination. It’s as simple as that.

    Not sure what your Pachuca comment relates to, but if it’s about the rumoured inclusion of Club America due to Pachuca’s and Leon’s common ownership then I have yet to see a reliable source on that.
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't go that far. There is a legitimate case to be made for including the Shield winners. Its not like FIFA said "we're taking Atlanta" or something.

    The problem is everyone knows they didn't pick Miami because they won the Shield. They would have found another excuse to take them if they haven't. But the fact that they did win the Shield keeps it just this side of the sporting integrity line.
     
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  17. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Exactly, for example the MLS players for the all star team are pick for sporting merit or by the fans but there is 1 or 2 players that are picked by Don Garber and nobody complains about it. but in this case FIFA should just pick Miami as host team without mentioning the Shield.
     
  18. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Had any other team won the SS, would they have gotten the nomination? I think we all know the answer to that. In that case it’s safe to assume the MLS Cup winner would have gotten the nod.

    So in 28 out of 29 possible SS outcomes the MLS Cup winner gets the “golden ticket” (assuming Canadian teams were eligible).

    To me that means integrity, sporting and otherwise, is out the window.
     
  19. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    There have been 20 CWC editions so far. Every time the host club was the “main” league champion. This is a farcical deviation from the norm.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No-one complains about the all star game picks because it's not a serious game.
     
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  21. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is hyperbole. In an overwhelming majority of countries the league champion isn't determined via playoffs. Look we can disagree, and dislike Fifa's decision all we want. At the end of the day Miami finished at the top of MLS' League Standings when the regular season ended. The reality is that despite the major strides the sport of soccer has made in the US (and its' increased popularity) the US Sports Media isn't going to care about the how or why Miami will be participating in this tournament. Oh sure the writers at the Athletic will bemoan, and complain about the decision. The reality is that a fraction of The Athletic's readers will view those articles in comparison to an article about the virtues of the spread offense, 46 defense, the designated hitter, and/or the expanded College Football Playoff.
     
  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If FIFA had said at the start of the season "the Shield winners will get the slot" none of us would be complaining. Well, ok, we might bitch a bit about picking the Shield winners over the Cup winners but in the end we would accept that it was a reasonable decision if not the best one.

    The problem is that FIFA waited until after Miami won the Shield to announce it, because it gave them the excuse they needed to get Miami in.

    So we ended up with an acceptable result through a less-than-credible process. Its bad but its not "question sporting integrity" bad.
     
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  23. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    It’s a farce! I demand Inter Miami’s spot is rescinded and given to the Leagues Cup winner, the true universal undisputed champion of world football.
     
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Serious question. When the CWC returns to the US, do you think the SS winner will once again get the host nomination? Because I personally wouldn’t bet money on it. MLS will suddenly “find its voice” and successfully lobby for the MLS Cup winner.

    For the record, I don’t particularly favour using playoffs to determine a league champion. But that is the method MLS chose and that is the method that should have been honoured.
     
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  25. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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