2025 CWC

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  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Clean sweep by South America in 2000.
     
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  3. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I'm Pep I'm giving my top players a rest, I mean there'll be a crop of muscle injuries in Manchester starting mid-June.
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The current CWC prize money is $5M for the winner - for typically two matches. So this is still a massive step up for three matches. And the final prize money could be a lot higher depending on success. I would expect the winner to take at least $50M.

    In this new format I expect some European player rotation in the group stage. Especially if the opponent is Auckland City. But once the elimination rounds start - I expect everyone to go for it.
     
  6. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    it's not that its bad money, is that its in summer, and you have to play more games if you get our of the group. Top clubs can rotate squads, but any teams that have UCL qualifying coming up might tank this.
     
  7. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #232 Nico Limmat, Dec 7, 2024
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boca claims they are the "Mitad mas uno" (half plus one) of the country. While this is an exaggeration (I think polls put it closer to 30%), they are hugely popular throughout the country, not just Buenos Aires. Same goes for River, though I must biasedly claim to a lesser degree. ;) So yeah that would apply to the diaspora as well.

    I was at the Atlanta game and while it may not have been peak atmosphere (did notice a lot of Messi tourists), we were still able to get our singing on.
     
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  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    So the LA Galaxy once again misses out on the CWC in rather strange circumstances.

    First the 2001 edition in Spain got cancelled after they qualified (and drew Real Madrid), and now the very questionable selection of the host in 2025. But given all the rule bending that took place for the Gals early in MLS it's hard to feel sorry for them. :D
     
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  11. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Galaxy will be relieved to miss this cash grab likely. :p
     
  12. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What tournament or league isn't a cash grab? I thought that was the purpose of pro sports.
     
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  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    No, they actually would love to grab some cash (like all other clubs)
     
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  14. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Botafogo arrived in Doha this (Tuesday) morning after 17 hours of travel. The game, of course, is as soon as Wednesday evening. Botafogo travelled right after they won their first Brazilian league title in nearly 30 years. No time to celebrate. Their schedule has been absolutely brutal.

    This also puts a bit of pressure on Pachuca. The Concacaf representatives haven’t survived the first match since 2020.
     
  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Ughhhh bein sports got rights to this tournament in the USA. No bein sports on many major carriers. I wonder if they'll also sublease the CWC making sure nobody watches it...
     
  16. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Yes, but if I learned anything from other fans I can just shout “cash grab” and “made up tournament” all day just because I might not be personally invested in a new or heavily altered competition.
     
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  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pluto TV, which is free, has beIN. Youtube TV also carries it.
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The old English Football League First Division clubs generated £170 million (£346 million today) in 1991/92.

    The Premier League clubs generated £6.4 billion in 2023/24. Cash grab!
     
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  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But those are domestic leagues based on merit and they also have history!!!
     
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  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I think that's bein sports Xtra not the main channel? There is also some version of bein ota here in l.a. but I'm not disconnecting my cable box just for this game lol
     
  21. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Pachuca putting 3 on the recent crowned Libertadores and Brasileiro Champs. Everyone likes to shit on our Continental tournament but this is the second time in a row that CCC champs beats Libertadores champion. Sure, it's Liga MX which brings me to another point. I always hear from MLS detractors "MLS sucks it can't even beat Liga MX and doesn't dominate its area". Liga MX surely has the tools to be considered the TOP league or second best league in the Americas. MLS being such a young league and recently going toe to toe with LIga MX is no easy feat. Also, Liga MX competing with MLS in Leagues Cup, Campeones Cup etc and CCC seems to have no affect on them as many Liga MX fans think Liga MX is getting "worse" because of it. It isn't.

    MLS wouldn't do that bad in Libertadores either (even with current rules) as many people think it would get "humiliated". It won't win Libertadores but reaching semis at some point wouldn't surprise me.
     
  22. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Next time I hear "Brasileiro is considered a top 8 league in the world" I'm simply going to say "it can't even beat Liga MX" lol
     
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  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Liga MX is the top league in North America in that it has 4 or 5 or the top 6 or 7 teams. MLS probably has 20 teams that are better than the next best Liga MX team.

    One of the reasons there's so much volatility in league positions in LMX is that teams play each other once per demi-season.
     
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Pachuca did well, but Botafogo was exhausted at this point. Between Libertadores and league they've had an incredibly punishing schedule the past few weeks.

    Up next is Al Ahly, for the right to play Real Madrid.
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ironically they now get 32 days off.
     

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