Alert: 2025 Chicago Fire Official OPTIMISM Thread

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Jan 9, 2025.

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What are you MOST Optimistic about going into 2025?

Poll closed Jan 16, 2025.
  1. Fire return to the Playoffs

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. Fire return and go deep into to the Playoffs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Fire WIN ...something?

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. MLS Cup or bust, baby!

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  5. Let's get into the US Open and win it for "old times' sake"!

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  6. A return to 1998 and we WIN THE DOUBLE!

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. I am optimistic we will get a new attacking DP! Someone super famous

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  8. I am optimistic we will get TWO new attacking DPs! A "big name" and an "up and comer"

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  9. I am optimistic we can finally stop talking about Xherdan Shaqiri!

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  10. I am optimistic we will get a new stadium settled in 2025-Lincoln Yards!

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
  11. I am optimistic we will get a new stadium settled in 2025--The 78 Site

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  12. I am optimistic we will get a new stadium settled in 2025--Soldier Field (with the Bears leaving)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. I am optimistic we will get a new stadium settled in 2025-Michael Reese lives

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. I am optimistic we will get a new stadium settled in 2025-Comisky Park(?!?)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Malört (well, Malört is the opposite of optimism, but still...)

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  16. Rubber Dick! (now and forever)

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  17. Something STUPID will happen!

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  18. I am Optimistic that less STUPID happens in 2025 for the Fire than previous years

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
  19. I am optimistic that we Will survive the first year of the new President's reign

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  20. Oh, hell, I will NEVER be optimistic about the Fire again. I am a WALLOWER, dammit!

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    Who is optimistic now! xtomx, I hate to bother you and I know you have a busy week but another thread ASAP would be much appreciated. Plus, the Fire are 1 - 0 in the playoffs when you do an early thread. No pressure and much appreciated. tia
     
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  2. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    I think Philly is gonna get punched in the face Sunday. Orlando looked like they never got off the bus because the Fire backline is legit. A veteran presence that didn't rattle after a hard fought first half against Orlando. They kept the young midfield organized and were rarely out of position for a quick counter.
     
  3. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Waterman has been a solid addition! Best part is how much he has shifted Jack from having to cover for whoever is next to him to providing support for him to cover more ground. And they have begun to feed off of each other's energy.

    Last night GGG made the most effective halftime tactics adjustment that I've seen from him all season. They shifted from trying to navigate a parked bus to drawing their block up the pitch and began playing balls in over the top. Despite only about 50% of the well timed runs being rewarded (many were looked off) it broke the game open!

    As much as gaining and losing Franco was meaningful, I'm extremely pleased with the growth of the sense of team. There were plenty of 'opportunities for improvements' but no one can say they didn't fight for each other! So nice to see everyone trying to match Hugo's tempo and passion!

    Papa Joe and GGG have things going in the right direction!
     
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  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I’ve been waiting for this since the Calvo days.
     
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  5. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hugo is, defensively, the hardest working striker I can remember the Fire having.
     
  6. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    RELENTLESS!!!
     
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  7. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Calvo still playing and still looking better for national team than he does for his club.
    His stay at Fire ended because he repeatedly exceeded the “Screwup Limit”.
    Coaches (and many fans) will tolerate only so many blatant foulups by any player. The limit is much higher for forwards and declines as you move to back of formation. Allowable Screwup Limit for goalies is extremely low and CBs only slightly higher.
    Good plays by Calvo were overwhelmed by his screwups.
     
  8. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I think most of his issues would have been best handled with better support like Elliott got.
     
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  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly. But the screwups were perceived to be his, for right or wrong, and were a significant factor in his departure, IMO.
    Difficult to remove emotion from perception of a player and screwups elicit negative emotional responses.
    Negative emotion usually more heavily weighted than positive. A few bad experiences are more heavily weighted than they should be.
    Examples are many including loss avoidance bias in financial markets, fear of flying despite better overall safety record, etc. Many studies have shown this to be true.
     
  10. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Y'all are both correct.
    -Dumb mistakes generate deeeep doubt and fear.
    -Kappelhoff's play faded hard after 2017 and the options were 'never available and young' Teran, 'good depth and not a starter' Omsberg and 'not really a CB' Pineda to pair with him.

    Had 2022 Czichos been added in 2020 they could have been the best duo in the league!
     
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  11. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    So in summary (and this being the optimistic thread) with Waterman and Elliott on the Fire, the 2025 MLS Cup is a lock for the men in red. Nice.
     
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  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I agree wholeheartedly but would just like to point out that even if studies back up the fact that emotion affects decisions doesn’t mean it’s intelligent.
     
  13. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1000%. But it is true. Emotion overwhelms intelligence frequently.
     
  14. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    No Franco, no Oregel and maybe no Zink. But I'm feeling very optimistic. Fire win 1-0 Saturday. Guti with a golazo!
     
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  15. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    We're not a team that can win 1-0. We're a team that can win 5-1.
     
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  16. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Joe Chatz apparently thinks Zinck could be available for minutes Saturday.
    That idea definitely belongs in Optimism thread.
    Wish I could think that is possible.
     
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We had a single 1-0 win (against NYRB)
    We had a single 1-0 zero (against Phil)
     
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  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    ...loss (against Phil)
     
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  19. go fire

    go fire Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Oct 8, 2023
    Yes please
     
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  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Time to shut down this thread!
     
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  21. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Optimism 2026!
     
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