2024 USL/NWSL/USOC/MLS Next Pro Referee Discussion [Rs]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by weka, Mar 5, 2024.

  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, to my previous point, I don't think there's a chance in the world that players wouldn't react by going absolutely crazy--particularly where it is positioned in front of the benches. I think you get red, still. Particularly if it stands out as an incident in the match--either of escalation or isolation.

    Maybe, if you have a match like Argentina-Netherlands, you start doing what Mateu Lahoz did and reason that drawing a line between VC and really bad UB just isn't worth it. By no means excusing what happened there, but in a bonkers match I could see a result like you're suggesting (because we've seen it in such matches). But in a normal, run-of-the-mill cup final... yeah, I still think elite referees worldwide are saying "nope, that's still a red and everyone knows it."
     
  2. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
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  3. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    I was flipping through games and saw a center referee Lukasz Jozefecki on a USL League One match with the Referee badge (not even Regional). Went and checked -- yep. Then I find out he's being mentored by Robert Sibiga through some quick sleuthing. Maybe something to do with that. Maybe not. But not often you see a GR referee on a PRO assignment, I guess.
     
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  4. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These are not the only promotions.

    Da Silva is now confirmed as a BU1 referee (and Nickerson and Lebuis are BU1 ARs).

    There were two additional AR promitions (Fierro and Yinka-Kehinde). And I've also been told that Ricardo Montero is officially in BU2, but his name is not showing up on the page yet, which is a little weird.
     
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  5. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
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  6. mrref

    mrref New Member

    May 16, 2016
    He moved from Poland, where he has worked over 600 D2, D3 games there. Not exactly a "grassroots referee" in that sense. His state wouldn't register him as Regional Referee. Yes, he is Polish and he is in touch with Sibiga, but that is not the reason he is getting looked at.
     
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  7. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    That was the inkling I had. Thanks.
     
  8. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The best part of this is the grin on her face when she gets up from hiding the ball.

    I look forward to seeing what the appeal committee does.
     
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  9. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Smith's antics are an embarrassment for serious practitioners of the dark arts.
     
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  10. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    As usual, in the comments, it's always the referee's fault for punishing players for their behaviors. The referee is always the bad guy.
     
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  11. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    It’s NWSL so they’ll probably say something like “She didn’t mean to! There was nothing malicious about it!”
     
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  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had a bit of a laugh at a USL-2 game I attended last Sunday. ALBION Colorado SC vs. Flatirons FC. Mid/late second half after the Flatirons keeper took another hard knock and needed the trainer the ref waited until he stood up and was ready to start play and called out "1, 2, 3 fouls on this player (pointing at the keeper). No more fouls on this player", and then restarted play with the free kick.
     
  13. Dayton Ref

    Dayton Ref Member+

    May 3, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    What!?
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was calling out ALBION's persistent infringement by fouling the Flatirons keeper. I had just not heard it shouted out in that way before and it made me chuckle.
     
  15. Dayton Ref

    Dayton Ref Member+

    May 3, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I mean I do it. But if you've gotten to 3 and the 3rd needs treatment, I think it needs a yellow now, not on the next one.
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I only remembered two fouls on the keeper myself (both hard) but I might have missed one.
     
  17. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    That’s one too many imo. After the first one if it’s not dealt with the players will handle it themselves. YMMV
     
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  18. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did any of you, by any chance, watch the Thorns v Courage game on 6/8? That's the one with the ball under the bench. I am interested in what you all think about how Danielle Chesky managed that game. (I want to check my perception against those who have some expertise.)
     
  19. Geko

    Geko Member

    Sacremento Geckos
    United States
    May 25, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    and the ref won't be assigned any games for Smith's team for the next 2 years.
     
  21. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    5th minute of Louisville/Gotham today: because ESPN failed to employ anyone of basic competency on commentary today, viewers now assume that a player was cautioned for reacting to a whistle blown near her ear rather than for kicking the ball away well after the first whistle. Deeply unserious broadcast.
     
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  22. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    no euros?
     
  23. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the opposite of a Eurosnob? Domesticsimp?
     
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  24. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    when AppleTv cut the deal my FuboTV became more obsolete . I had the two choices on my screen and went with Spain… lol
     
  25. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Interesting penalty in the USL Championship... guessing the offender thought it was a goalkick when it never went out in the first place.

     
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