PBP: 2024 Olympics - Thread for all USA matches

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by MiLLeNNiuM, Jul 26, 2024.

  1. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #251 MiLLeNNiuM, Jul 31, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2024
    USWNT's next match:

    USA vs JPN
    Women's Quarter-final - Match 20
    Date & Time: Saturday 3 August 2024 at 6:00 am PDT
    Place: Parc des Princes, Paris


    All Women's Quarter-final matches -- start times are Paris time.

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  2. NCChiFan

    NCChiFan Member

    NC Courage
    United States
    Feb 19, 2021
    I admit, I am enjoying watching this iteration of the USWNT!
     
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  3. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    To blame that on Sonnet is wrong. Ball went high to an Aussie who towered over Nighswonger to head the ball into the middle, Sonnet was stepping over to help. It's Girma on the right who was not guarding anyone. Kennedy did well to slip in between Sonnet n Girma to score.
     
  4. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    Sonnet did make the mistake letting Kennedy cutting in front of her to try for the header but calling her lost is an overstatement.
     
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  5. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I admit, I'm a little tough on Sonnet, but there are many years of history behind that bias.
    I'm always concerned when she's defending near her own goal.
    I think she's much better suited as a defensive mid.
     
  6. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    For goodness sake. There was a two hour delay in Morocco vs Argentina men IN THIS TOURNAMENT before teams returned to the field and the tying goal was disallowed.
     
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  7. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #257 MiLLeNNiuM, Jul 31, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2024
    Someone mentioned that the delay in that match was due to a pitch invasion, not VAR.

    Anyways, I hope y'all don't take my posts too seriously. I'm more emotional during matches and I was on a 3-match watching spree with 3 hours sleep.
     
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  8. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member+

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Passion is permitted here MiLL
     
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  9. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What Gustavsson said after the game about his yellow card:
    "I did apologize to the referee if he misinterpreted me because what I said when I got the yellow card was that the VAR is calling for you. You need to listen because they came and told me that the system was down and the guy next to me said, ‘We’re trying to get ahold of the referee but he doesn’t hear.’ And then I said, ‘You need to listen to VAR to try to get ahold of you’ and I got a yellow card but I think I got more yellow card from my body language than what I said to be honest and I apologize for that at halftime if he interpreted me being angry. I don’t know why he restarted the play. The only thing I know is I was informed that it was a technical issue.”

    Also more explanation on what was happening with VAR from MassRef when I asked in the refereeing forum:
    "It was clear Letexier had no direct communication with the VAR. He told the coaches that. He then went to someone near the fourth who was support staff and indicated it was a goal because VAR was down and there was no way to communicate (so you default to decision on the field). While he was explaining all that to the Australian captain, it seems a mobile connection was established so, given play hadn't restarted, he went back to that support staff and then to the monitor. The idea of having a mobile phone backup is actually standard protocol in MLS and, I presume, most domestic competitions. Interested to learn if it's a required fail-safe with FIFA, too, or if this was an ad hoc fix. The fact that Letexier (initially) so quickly said 'can't talk to VAR, goal stands' was kind of surprising to me."
     
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  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Noticed Gustavsson resigning as Matildas coach today shows this tournament is serious business
     
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  11. NCChiFan

    NCChiFan Member

    NC Courage
    United States
    Feb 19, 2021
    Good question. Could have simply been his plan to just manage them for the build up to the Olympics? >shrugs< Did he specify something in his resignation?
     
  12. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His contract was only through this Olympics.
     
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  13. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    So then, it could be a courtesy resignation to make it easier for them to pick somebody else if they regard this as a failure, or he could actually want to do something different...
     
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  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only 17 in the squad:

     
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  15. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    filtering through various Australian sites, there were some stories that they were going to hire former SD Wave coach after the Olympics, but others say is resignation was rushed. Tabloids currently having an fieldday in OZ land

    Timjbo on X: "‘Four years of hell’: inside the Matildas’ dramas as Tony Gustavsson departs after Olympic debacle https://t.co/lFtGTuXZTV They were afforded a well-funded campaign, including a charter plane, luxury accommodation and 23 contracted staff for 22 players. On Thursday morning https://t.co/EpQXHC2omy" / X
     
  16. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member+

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    He’s got a good offer from another national team.
     
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  17. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good guy. I feel for him, but I understand the Aussies need for better results.
     
  18. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does that mean exactly?
     
  19. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    It is a bit hard to understand the question. What do you find confusing?
     
  20. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Due to disciplinary absences." It sounds odd.
    Makes it seem like some people weren't showing up to practices or staying out late?
     
  21. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. She accumulated two yellow cards (which are disciplinary actions) during the group stage and, because of that, is disqualified from playing in the next (quarterfinal) game. Apparently, the rules do not allow a player to be added to the game roster if a player is DQ'd from a game due to accumulated yellows.

    Give the too small roster size in the first place, that seems like a very harsh rule.
     
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  22. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Jul 17, 2024
    The inter-team discipline has nothing to do with the alternates their behaving badly or even being violent toward teammates or others away from the field or official Olympic activities. But if they are suspend because of official Olympic sanctions or FIFA sanctions they cannot be replaced by alternates.
    I looked but could find no mention as to what would happen if there was so many "card" suspensions that the team cannot field 11 to start a match
    In this case "disciplinary" to me is quite clear but I looked around a bit anyway and found that a player missing a match for "cards" or other official sanctions from FIFA or the Olympic committee or about anything that is not injury cannot be replaced by an alternate if she would otherwise be eligible to play.
    That is, in this case, a suspension for "card accumulation" or a "red card" cannot be replaced by an alternate.
    I think that is clear but, like every other regulation written by lawyers, the exact wording seems intended to obscure the meaning so the lawyers can make it mean most anything as their whims dictate.
    In this case no alternate can replace Coffey.. That is, for the quarters the USA has only 17 players of which 2 must be goalkeepers.
    To put it even more simply the USA cannot use all their subs as (unless they sub the 'keeper) 5 are allowed and only 4 are available.
    This actually could be a problem as all legs in the tournament are tiring more rapidly as the amount of rest is insufficient for decent recovery.
    I believe that the lack of a sub will not matter in the result but the lack of Coffey herself could mater and could matter a great deal.
     
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  23. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    No, she got a second yellow card in the group stage-- the tournament is disciplining her too many serious fouls. A red card would do the same.
     
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  24. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see. I was more curious about the 17 vs 18 man roster reasoning, but CPT answered above. Thanks.
     
  25. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    However, even if they could use an alternate for Coffey, they have already brought in their alternate defender (Sams) their alternate mid (Bethune) and their alternate forward (Williams.) So the only one left is their alternate keeper isn't it?
     

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