Very disappointed with the YC at ‘6 for Chara. He clearly wins the ball. (I’m also a diehard Portland fan)
Your partisanship aside, I think you're underselling it. That's a clean tackle. And he's got SPA yellow. Against Chara. In the 6th minute. That is a really bad start. Did you catch Klich sort of smile and laugh alongside him? That's the sort of thing I was talking about last weekend. His opponent knows it's not a foul.
Yeah, totally agreed. And if you know Chara’s style of play, it will certainly affect him (and the Timbers) for the rest of the game.
Thinking about analogous situations that I can remember... There was a corner kick incorrectly awarded to NYCFC in 2022 (have to look up the match) that lead to a game tying goal. I can also remember the handball on the goal line in last years playoffs where SKC should have had a penalty but VAR got lost in the weeds and didn't do anything and so SKC went out. So, on one hand these bad decisions aren't completely unprecedented in either their scale or their impact. on the other hand, mistakes happen at every level and they've managed to hit two years worth of bad decisions in two weeks.
It’s going to be player frustration boiling over. Pro players seem willing to put up with poor refereeing to a point. They are probably also being told to go easy on the refs. that won’t last forever.
Need to take another look, but there's a decent argument Yapi was fortunate. It was, as you say, quite nasty.
Ya it was low but the speed and force were so high that really should be red. That was bad. Being low I guess it didn’t meet clear and obvious.
In the category of things that fans never notice... 45' there's a collision with a DCU player and the Portland goalkeeper. Flag comes up and the referee immediately signals indirect for offside. The attacker was onside by at least two full yards. Like, it was never close. It was a foul coming out either way, so it doesn't matter. And maybe the decision was for a foul (after all, the referee then didn't maintain the IFK signal when it was taken). But in the moment, that was the call (AR flag in right hand straight up, referee hand straight up) so at best there were both mechanic and communications issues. At worst, you had an inexplicable offside decision at any level.
may I suggest this should be a red card? Yapi kept the challenge low, but he was on a dead sprint and holy cow that ankle buckled. this garbage tackle is no less dangerous than an average SFP https://streamable.com/88pm6m
I mean, this goes back to the debate we had at one of the last big tournaments (WWC?) around whether or not "but he was really just trying to score a goal" is--or should be--a valid excuse for downgrade. Nothing in the Laws, of course. But very obvious he went in with that sort of intensity because he's trying to score a goal. Just as the defender went in intensely because he was trying to stop a goal. Defender wins the race and the result is bad... now what? Particularly when it did seem at the last moment like the Colorado player realized he was late and tried ever so slightly to mitigate. I think no one expects red there, even if it's probably red by the book. That's just a tough spot for a referee to be in. I've got red at midfield for sure. But that only happens at midfield if the attacking player is trying to murder his opponent.
I think you need to view this at multiple angles and at real speed to get an understanding of what happened, though. For anyone who only watches that, it's an obvious red. Like a no questions asked red. At speed and seeing the whole play develop, it's clear both players are in a dead (and desperate) sprint for a loose ball that's rolling to the goal. And, at that point, see my post above. Not saying it's not a red. Or shouldn't be, by the book. But with the context of what both players are trying to do, my history in the sport says no one actually expects red there.
I get the CR is maybe looking directly through the body so he's guessing if he doesn't seem the handball cleanly. But look at AR2. Nothing. No help on something he is staring right at. That's an example of the difference in level/ability. That doesn't need to go to VAR with the right on-field teamwork.
My thoughts exactly, you took the words out of my mouth. Even still, I kind of expected it to get sent down is genuinely so forceful. I feel for the attacker because he kinda has to go for it. But I have red there.
All the more impressive when you consider that the VAR (Gantar) only showed him the worst possible angle! Seriously it's from super far away and on the wrong side of the player so you can't even see the arm or the ball at the point of contact. I was pretty surprised by that.
I've mostly made my arguments above, but I'd add this... Swinging the outcome of calamitous defending that nearly resulted in an open net goal all the way to an SFP red card on the attacking team simply because he was a tenth of a second late on a play that everyone would concede he "has to go for"... yeah, football doesn't expect it. I can't explain it much more than that. And I can't ground it well in the Laws. And there's obviously a point where this sort of reasoning gets trumped (like by a really bad injury). But here? I just don't think a professional level referee (or VAR) can make this a red unless they absolutely must.
sorry I can't get on board with the idea that players are allowed to plow through an opponent's ankle and not get sent off just because they were trying really hard to score a goal
Interesting no penalty call in SEA-ATX just now. No replay shown on the broadcast, so hard to tell whether that was the right decision.
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