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Early #InstantReplay for ya...IMO this is a CLEAR second yellow on Fabian Herbers in the 40th minute of #CINvCHI.I mean, that's just textbook stuff. Way late. Clear contact. Lunge. Reckless. I am at a loss to think of justification for this not being a sending off. pic.twitter.com/IHpzZYCeAh— Andrew Wiebe (@andrew_wiebe) July 18, 2024 For reference he'd been booked in 35'. He tried to manage his way out of this but I don't think it worked -game got pretty chippy after that.
Boiko’s VAR announcement of that DOGSO-red penalty kick was one of the most detailed and helpful explanations I’ve seen in the short history of these announcements.
Just an absolutely blown advantage in the first 5 minutes of LA-COL. CR calls a foul on a COL defender just above the box while another defender clears it right into the path of a streaking LA attacker who buries it into the net. But the goal has to be brought back and they don't convert the free kick. (They did score a couple of minutes later, so odds are it won't have an impact on the final score)
We had a PK at the end of the first half in LA-COL that was interesting. Foul (correctly) called on a LA defender for a shirt tug but a case could be made for GK interference at the same time but a different Colorado attacker. After a bit of a delay VAR didn't send it down. Then the ensuing PK was saved but a Colorado attacker finished the rebound. Slight case for encroachment by the goal-scorer but the LA defender on him was encroaching even more. In the end VAR once again didn't send it down. EDIT: Encroachment pic, the Rapids player (in blue) at the bottom scored the rebound
I *think* I remember that PRO's interpretation of the definition of "restart position" in the Laws' glossary is that there's no encroachment until the player's foot (or other part of their body) touches the ground inside the penalty area. I *think* Bassett's foot is still off the ground at the kick point, but I don't know that either angle given on the broadcast was definitive either way. One is a blur, the other is occluded.
So if both Bassett and the LA player encroached and Bassett scored on the rebound, what's the call? No goal because the attacker was in early? Or goal stands, because defender can't benefit from going in early? Not saying that's what happened just wondering.
What is the interpretation of the player’s position if *both* feet are off the ground at the same time?
Alvas Powell got two yellows in the span of 10 seconds tonight: https://x.com/ufcolin/status/1813747564614975610?s=46&t=u42s9Lc5er0_5mXDpYFHBw The yellow card for the first push seems like the expected call, but that sort of play is something where I’d like to see the expectation shift towards a red card. Pushing someone, from behind, headfirst into the boards from 2 yards away endangers the safety of the opponent, bottom line. You could also argue that the second yellow could/should have been straight red, too.
4:07 in the video https://youtu.be/8YoDMUmfrGg?si=Ruw0j9821A7W3C5u Was a good explanation from a non native English speaker too. But to be honest DOGSO in the penalty area doesn’t really require much detail to include. When these explanations really would help is when considerations for DOGSO outside the box or SFP need to be applied either in upgrades or downgrades. Talking about point and mode of contact, excessive force, the 4 Ds
Forgot to mention he was substituted off ~5 minutes later. Definitely much less pleasant in the second half
Devil's advocate... the Cincy player sees that challenge coming and turns his entire body to ensure he gets hit in pretty much the worse way possible. Like, he saw the tackle already coming and realized the defender was reaching to a place he couldn't get to, so put his body in between. It's not the action of an attacker who is trying to play throught that challenge and advance. He wants to get fouled. Because he knows it's likely a 2CT. With all that said, it's still a dumb tackle and it's a smart play by the attacker to ensure the contact. It's definitely a much easier sell for the referee to just give the card. Very few people would complain, obviously. But if we're answering the "I am at a loss for a justification..." framing from Wiebe, I think the obvious answer is that the referee saw a careless challenge that the victim made sure turned into a reckless one and opted not to reward that behavior because he didn't want to give what he felt was a "cheap" 2CT. Now, you can disagree with that assessment and/or just say the 2CT is easier regardless, but I don't think it takes too much imagination to figure out what Dujic was doing.
I agree with you that "I'm at a loss for justification..." framing implies this was an egregious mistake with only one possible correct decision. I watched it in real time and saw him talking to the Chicago player like "how can you possibly be that stupid?"; it was clear he was trying to keep him on the field if possible. However, I don't think this would have been a "cheap" 2CT. In the first half Chicago was repeatedly fouling in the midfield to interrupt play and prevent any promising attacks from developing. Five minutes earlier the same player had been booked for a similar foul in the same spot and he still made that challenge. Second half cincy really lost their composure - I'm sure there were a lot of factors going into this but I think the persistent fouling in midfield had to play a role
Yeah, I'm not defending the call nor calling it "cheap" myself, necessarily. Didn't see the match so totally defer to you on this. I'm just saying that if Dujic thinks the Cincinnati player has baited the Chicago player or--worse--has taken an affirmative action that makes a careless tackle look way worse than it otherwise would be, he might view it as cheap, particularly if it was an intense match and he was looking for a clear-cut 2CT. But again, visually it looks like a clear cut 2CT. So you can easily argue that Dujic was over-thinking it even if I do have his perspective correctly analyzed.
Usually I’m all for reckless yellows and don’t like to do the “yes but” game to talk out of clear yellows, but that was an extremely strange movement the attacker made. He sort of jumped backwards flat footed when the ball was going forward. But to me the second yellow there is much more easily justifiable than not giving one. If that happened in a game I did it’s yellow all the way because I wouldn’t have the foresight to think about the attackers movement without seeing a replay
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sp...t-agree-with-mls-suspension-fine/74666696007/ Nothing particularly surprising in here but I did think this was noteworthy: "I think that shows that, at times, the officials are protected more than players and coaches." I don't know enough to say if this is true one way or the other but I think an argument can be made that officials should be more protected than players and coaches. Again, I don't know if they are or should be but I don't think it's trolling to suggest that they should be. I think you can make good faith arguments that the two most important things are physical safety of the players and the integrity of the competition; as referees are the face of competition integrity they should be protected on principle. Of course, adapting that argument leads to a lot of other downstream consequences but I still think it's a genuine argument. Maybe this is too philosophical for this thread but I just thought it was interesting