He read that well - there were some token protests but almost of the anger was directed at the player for a dumb card. He was called out by the coach post-game as well.
Kubo touches the ball to the left as the slide comes in from the right. From behind it probably looks like the slide got the ball. Review shows the actual contact. Best view is from the goal line, which is one the ref will never have.
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No full speed view of the Aviles challenge available on the match replay. Tackle happened during a replay of a Miami chance.
That's a fair point but still, the 2022 MLS Cup Final is something that I have a hard time getting out of my mind and frames a lot of how I looked at this
I *still* haven't gotten to see a full speed replay of this challenge, and it's Monday so that means something (iykyk).
There wasn't a full-speed shot during live coverage. They caught the tail end of it as they were coming back from a replay.
While I think both are red cards, I do think there are two key differences with that Pinto tackle. First, the force of the Pinto tackle was directly through the back and was with the second leg. Here, the force is on the side and with the lead leg; the second leg looks ugly, but doesn't really do anything to the opponent in this case. Second, that was like the worst tackle in a tournament where everyone knew if you came straight from behind you were getting red. The fact that Pinto, Portugal, et al complained (and still complain) about that was just stupifying. It was a red card 1000 out of 1000 times at that tournament and in that era of international football. Here, well... everyone just got up and no one appealed for anything more than a yellow. The on-field decision was immediately accepted. None of that makes it right. Watching it, I have red. You shouldn't be able to leave your feet and launch yourself at an opponent like that, make significant contact (and high), miss the ball, and not see red. But I think it's several orders removed from that 2002 tackle. Also, despite the fact that I am now sure PRO wanted red there, the downstream potential effects for T. Penso having to give red to Miami there via OFR are not insignificant. By no means am I saying she downgraded (like, not at all am I saying that). But all things being equal, once the yellow is given and accepted, I'm sure she was very glad she didn't get called over.
I did it "it is not too far removed." Pinto's is far worse, but the Miami tackle isn't drastically too far off.
Fair enough, but I think it all depends on our respective definitions of "drastic." The Pinto tackle was shocking--if it were against any other team aside from Korea Republic (or any competition other than the World Cup), it probably would have set off a melee. If you watch the Miami tackle in real-time, a single teammate takes momentary exception and then all is well when Penso immediately has the yellow out. At least from a real-time perception standpoint, they were quite different. And even the through the back versus hard and at the side has to matter for differentiating purposes. Yes, they both were lunges from distance nowhere near the ball and with the opponent getting their body between the "tackler" and the ball. But I think things start to diverge quickly soon after that.
Because it runs counter to a lot of opinions here, I'll mention that the official verdict is correct check complete.
Just because a governing body says it is a correct check complete doesn't mean it's right. I mean Dale Johnson and the PGMOL come out every week supporting laughable non-interventions. MLS/PRO are not immune from making the same mistake.
Sure but this was deliberately chosen as a teaching exercise internally. PRO didn’t have to say anything at all, other than to the crew. So simply for that reason, it’s a relatively important determination as it is precedent going forward for all officials.
This is important. PRO trains, assigns, and evaluates officials for MLS. If those officials wish to get appointments of maximum quantity and quality, they have to make the calls within those expectations. We can argue until we're blue in the face about whether this *should* reach the line of intervention, but if they say it doesn't, then for MLS officials it doesn't. In this case, PRO has it from the side, does not have a scissor action, and doesn't have the tackler coming down on the opponent with his weight. While I would *respectfully* disagree with the second consideration there, I do see what they're seeing on the third. PRO also had concerns about re-refereeing on this one due to the decision being so readily accepted on the field. Now, would I give a red for this challenge? Very likely unless I just saw it wrong. I also don't work for PRO.