2024 MLS Expansion Draft

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  1. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    During the 2024 MLS Expansion Draft on Wednesday, Dec. 11, San Diego FC may select up to five players in preparation for their inaugural 2025 season.

    Key dates:

    • Dec. 10: The list of players eligible for selection will be released by MLS Communications on Tuesday, Dec. 10.
    • Dec. 11: MLS Expansion Draft: Wednesday, Dec. 11
    2024 MLS Expansion Draft Process:

    • Five Rounds: San Diego FC may select up to five players from the eligible pool of players, claiming only a single player from any one club.
    • Selection clock: San Diego FC will be permitted three minutes for each selection.
    • Timeouts: No timeouts.
    • Trades: No trades are permitted during the 2024 MLS Expansion Draft.
    Key parameters:

     
  2. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW, here's who we left exposed:

    I really wish the league shared info on which players exactly were included among the 12 protected, and which weren't draft eligible. In any event, we all assume our recent trade with SD makes our list somewhat irrelevant.
     
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  3. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There isn’t a single player on that list that I’d be broken up about if we lost him.
     
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  4. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did not protect a second keeper. Maybe my expectation regarding Schulte being sold within a year or so is not an expectation within the club

    I did have Chambost on my exposed list almost every time thought *toot toot*

    no other "surprises" there though
     
  5. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Hinestroza would be the surprise to some, but not when you consider the intricacies of his loan.
     
  6. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DeJuan Jones? I understand that he didn't exactly set things on fire when he arrived, but he was considered one of the best left backs in the league when we acquired him. You don't give away a player like that for 50K in GAM in compensation. I assume that San Diego would have eagerly snapped him up.
     
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  7. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. Yo soy not impressed.

    This isn't a straight up "re-sign him or cut him" decision. If it was, I'd probably keep him. This is an expansion draft, and you can only protect so many people. DeJuan Jones isn't a game-changer.
     
  8. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    We invested way too much money to lose him , exposing him And protecting Camacho would be criminal.


    With the trade I’ll put no stock whatsoever in the list of unprotected. I wouldn’t leave Herrera unprotected either. But it is dumb we can’t see who was auto protected hopefully that info finds it way to us.
     
  9. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Jones's contract is probably high enough to ward off a selection too
     
  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many teams with actual reporting or websites that give a damn reported the protected lists, ours just wasn't one of them.
     
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  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is miles better than Camacho, FFS.
     
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  12. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    I don't see jones staying on the team past the transfer window, um which btw did they ever say if the windows will change this season?
     
  13. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing's been announced re: next year's windows.
     
  14. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bullshit.

    Rudy Camacho was on the field when we won MLS Cup. He was on the field when we won Leagues Cup. He was there for the bitchslapping against Monterrey. And Camacho played his ass off the entire season. He just played so many minutes that he was completely gassed by the end.

    Declaring DeJuan Jones to be miles better than anyone on this team, let alone Rudy Camacho, is mindblowingly dumb.
     
  15. Ball Kicker

    Ball Kicker Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 11, 2022
    Rudy was terrible the last couple games of the season, he literally fell off a cliff. I am hoping you are right and it was just fatigue but he should not be starting every game of the season next year. He can play his ass off all he wants, if he's not good enough anymore, it won't matter.

    DeJuan Jones was seen as a coup for Columbus, not sure where the disdain with him came from. Two-footed, can play left or right wing-back, which is invaluable in a league with a salary cap. He's also under contract until 2027! I will say he is miles better than Derrick Jones, at least :)
     
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  16. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone reaches their sell by date. Gino did. Sometimes it happens pretty fast. I'm not sure of this is the case for Rudy ... yet. But it makes sense to get ready for it.
     
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  17. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is miles better than Camacho. Rudy is a liability at this point. Jones is a FB, so he does not fit seamlessly into our system, but he was a positive. He was on the field for some big wins as well. And he is way younger.

    From a fit perspective I get it. But player vs player? Jones is WAAAY better than Rudy.

    I will stand by that all day long. As for mind blowingly dumb, look in a mirror.
     
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  18. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We’re not going to agree on this at all. Rudy was in the middle of a defense that was pretty damn good for most of the season. I don’t understand how any serious fan of this fan of this team can downplay his contributions based on what he looked like when totally exhausted at the tail end. If you do that, you have to start declaring that Darlington Nagbe isn’t any good, either.
     
  19. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another way of looking at this is: Do we think other teams in MLS would rather have Camacho or Jones on their roster? Trick question, as I think many would prefer both. Still, I have to think most teams would rather have Jones. He's just 27, while Rudy is 33. Jones is pricier, but not expensive by modern MLS standards (he's just above the DP threshold). And Rudy's not dirt cheap, at $500+K.

    Whether Jones fits into our style of not, the fact remains we dropped $600K in GAM on acquiring him and it was reported that other teams were pissed that a team as good as the Crew were able to add a player of his caliber to the roster. He's a very good player in this league, eve if he hasn't really shown it here.
     
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  20. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is another way of looking at it. Here's another: Do you make roster decisions based on what other clubs want, or on what's best for YOUR club?

    I mean, TrueCrew's the one I'm really arguing with, and even he said in his defense that Jones doesn't necessarily fit into our system. Camacho does.

    I have no doubt that the majority of teams would prefer Jones. Hell, if this team was rebuilding? I'd say the same. Get younger. Get the guys with upside. But this is a veteran team whose championship window may be closing, both due to guys getting older and guys not being long for MLS. You don't move off of a guy like Camacho who was a big part of your team unless you think he's completely shot, which I don't. You probably have to find a way to manage his minutes a little better, yes. But for a team that's trying to win NOW, I prefer solid, known quantities to guys who haven't quite put it together yet.

    And by the way, this isn't me pooping on DeJuan. This is the thread about the expansion draft. I'd prefer to have him than not have him. I'd love to see what Nancy can do with this guy with a full offseason. The only point I was making was that I wouldn't be anywhere near as broken up about it as a lot of the rest of you were.
     
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  21. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn’t be broken up, but we clearly valued Jones enough to spend $600k in GAM to acquire less than five months ago. To basically give him away for free in an expansion draft would be, at best, embarrassing. At worst it makes our FO and coach look something short of fully competent in their major player acquisition decisions. The only thing that would make losing Jones via an expansion draft look less crappy by comparison is the fact he’s on the list next to a guy we paid $2M to acquire less than a year ago.
     
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  22. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Why not he can play LWB/RWB/LCB/RCB

    to be totally honest I’d rather start Cheberko or whoever the next guy is at CB. Dejuan Jones speed , versatility etc… is exactly what Nancy wants and he should excel this season. I don’t understand anyone’s negativity or doubts about his future impact. Mid season joint a team that needed wingback depth he fit a need. He will be comfortable this off season , no starter Arfsten or Farsi should feel safe like a guaranteed starter. This guy is quality , idk how some fail to realize this. The question is how will he fit in with the team and even if we rotate all 4 wingbacks ( Herrera is in that equation ) that’s a good thing due to the work required to be put in and the amount of games we have. Having 4 starter quality wingbacks is exactly what we need and all of them can also help other positions. HE ISNT GOING ANYWHERE, unless he isn’t a team player and wants to start regularly elsewhere. Because he certainly could earn a starting spot here if he exceeds. Nancy doesn’t just hand out starting jobs , ask Yaw Yeboah
     
  23. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Lol Jones is in his prime athleticism off the charts , Camacho is a tough Cerebral player who did play too many minutes. His physical abilities are a liability when we turn the ball over. When fresh he did a good job of not turning it over but the fact remains when we push up we leave CBs 1v1 and young fast guys can blow past him. It’s time to phase him out.

    Are you drinking today ? Please share friend
     
  24. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Nagbe is on the decline he is still a good player but he isn’t elite anymore either. The FO did them both a disservice. I don’t want Camacho off the team. I want him as a back up/ Rotational starter. By default he likely had to be the starter heading into the season unless we add someone or Cheberko earns the job. I prefer Cheba rotating at LCB with Amundsen. I want a true CB and I’m not sure he has it in him but I’ll be glad and admit I’m wrong if he suddenly mans the middle at a all star level. We need a good CB in this system it’s imperative because we ask a lot out of our defenders.
     
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  25. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Not one person said sell Camacho , he is merely more expendable because we do need to rebuild our back line. He never was (or should been ) a long term solution at CB. His knowledge of Nancy’s system is why we got him. Had he not previously played for him it’s unlikely we added him for his talents. He is needing to be phased out that doesn’t mean anything other than we need someone to challenge him for the starting job and to limit his minutes. Wether he starts or is the back up he will be a much better player when not asked to play start 27/34 MLS games and I think he started a lot in other competitions. Overall I think he started 41x and played in 44 games , not sure on total minutes but he had 2,311 just in MLS alone.
     

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