News: 2024 MLS Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jaykoz3, Jan 8, 2024.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    …or this lol

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  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just on that, the magic number for a full "appearance bonus" in English football tends to be 70 minutes.

    So when you see a player get pissed off about being substituted in the 68th minute, it may not just be his passion for the game that's making him want to stay in the pitch.
     
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  3. Pack87Man

    Pack87Man BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 1, 2001
    Quad Cities
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In a way, that explains the entire fight between the USWNT and US Soccer, and how the USMNT got dragged into it. For those players, including the MLS players, national team play is a bonus, not their main income, so they were willing to do the risky pay for play contract, while for the women, it was their living, so they went for stability. The bonuses becoming superfluous does tend to have an effect on incentives.
     
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  4. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Decision Day (October 19) MLS attendance.

    Montreal (vs. New York City) 19,619
    DC United (vs. Charlotte) 19,365
    Philadelphia (vs. Cincinnati) 19,016
    Orlando (vs. Atlanta) 25,046
    Miami (vs. New England) 21,429
    New York Red Bulls (vs. Columbus) 24,515
    Chicago (vs. Nashville) 23,942
    Houston (vs. Los Angeles Galaxy) 20,800
    Los Angeles FC (vs. San Jose) 22,137
    Minnesota (vs. St. Louis) 19,881
    Austin (vs. Colorado) 20,738
    Dallas (vs. Kansas City) 19,096
    Real Salt Lake (vs. Vancouver) 20,359
    Seattle (vs. Portland) 36,341

    TOTAL ATTENDANCE: 312,284
    AVERAGE: 22,306
     
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  6. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Interesting most games are over 95% stadium capacity
     
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Seattle vs Portland getting better than the Seattle average is good, but its below the Sounders' best average, and I feel like it'd be over 50k just a few years ago.

    Anyway, so did we set the attendance record?
     
  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I always found it funny that so many more people show up to the regular season closer than the first round of the playoffs (yes, I do understand the multitude of reasons this happens)
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were 65k in Seattle v Portland when I saw my first MLS match in 17 years.
     
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  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yeah I remember those days. I just didn't want to exaggerate my point.
     
  11. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great numbers for decision day considering it was a busy weekend in the sports world. It wasn't that long ago that college football, MLB playoffs and NHL games going on would be a reason for lower attendance. It looks like most teams have core fans who show up and MLS has found its place in one of the most crowded spots markets in the world.
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    Next year decision day will be different with every team playing now that they have 30 teams. If they stay with two conferences, you can't have every team play another team in your conference. So it's it just one game that becomes out of conference next year? Makes you wonder if realignment might happen with three ten team conferences, or play every game East vs West? Should be interesting because these seem like really good numbers for the last day of the season.
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The last time we had odd numbers in both conferences the last place team in the East was paired with the last place team from the West based on the prior year standings.

    That was in 2017 with 22 teams in the league. Houston hosted Chicago.

    Sunday, October 22
    DC United v. NY Red Bulls 4:00 pm
    NY City v. Columbus 4:00 pm
    Atlanta v. Toronto 4:00 pm
    Montreal v. New England 4:00 pm
    Philadelphia v. Orlando 4:00 pm
    Houston v. Chicago 4:00 pm
    Dallas v. LA Galaxy 4:00 pm
    Seattle v. Colorado 4:00 pm
    Portland v. Vancouver 4:00 pm
    Salt Lake v. Kansas City 4:00 pm
    San Jose v. Minnesota 4:00 pm

    2020 had 26 teams but they divided the conferences 14/12.
     
  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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    So, it is another record. We're going to need some bigger stadiums to keep beating this.
     
  14. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Snapdragon won't be a drag at least with its 35k capacity (assuming they sell out the season).
     
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  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure how accurate these numbers are or how accurate the percent of capacity are:

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  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Revs averaging 30k was an unimaginable fantasy just a few years ago.
     
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  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I just drove by that place. If they ever have summer day games its going to be brutal. Otherwise its a great stadium.
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So 3.3%* of next year’s matches will, with all sellouts, be 11,700 above the league average. That would boost attendance by 386 per match. That’s about half of what is needed to get to 24K.

    *Im not good enough at math to know if it should be 1/29 or 1/30 so I went with the lower number.
    theyve been steadily improving, kind of under the radar. Wonder what’ll happen next year.

    The Revs are proof positive that 1.0 teams can become attendance leaders. Next up, the Fire.

    The Sounders are beginning to worry me, to the extent I worry about attendance. I mean, it ain’t like 15 years ago when we worried the league might fail. Still, it’s fun to see Our League catching and passing other leagues. Something completely unpredictable would have to happen for MLS to catch Germany or England, but in 10 years, it could be #3 in the world for average attendance. Not likely at all, but that should be the stretch goal.
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The median team drew 21,473.

    Where does that rank us? Behind Germany and England l’m sure. Probably ahead of Mexico, definitely ahead of Spain and France. Italy? Anyway, the median MLS team is somewhere between #3 and #5 in the world, which just shows how solid MLS is. That’s why this league gets studied. The depth of strength is almost unparalleled.

    for myself, I’ve been a bit surprised that Cincy and Nashville haven’t followed Orlando’s trajectory. Their front offices are doing a good job.
     
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  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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    So much for out of sight out of mind despite lalas and his proclamations.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it weren’t for the WNBA having an almost literally unbelievable year, the last two years of MLS would be the biggest sports business story in the US.

    Well, the pros anyway, college sports is bonkers.
     
  22. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    CNBC did run a story on MLS business success yesterday. Still, the absolutely overwhelming narrative on Twitter, led by the likes of Lalas, is that MLS has completely disappeared and nobody knows it exists any more.
     
  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you mean the absolutely overwhelming narrative that the algorithm has generated for you specifically.
     
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  24. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's cuz Lalas is gonna Lalas.

    100%
    This will be a season long remembered.

    Sheet, and us in Houston!
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you still on MySpace too?
     
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