News: 2024 MLS Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jaykoz3, Jan 8, 2024.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except during the 70's and early 80's though.....
     
  2. AhiTun4

    AhiTun4 Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 16, 2024
    Los Angeles, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a lot of the outrage was because Garber just made up fixture congestion as a reason for the pull out. Now it is somewhat an issue here, but it's nowhere near Europe. It doesn't help that Leagues Cup is still seen as a not serious tournament either, so he would have gotten bad press. My main argument against the fixture congestion idea is that LAFC was still able to make it to the MLS Cup final despite playing 55 matches. Also English clubs usually don't pull out of the FA Cup (except Man United during the 2000 Club World Cup, but even now Man City doesn't). People believe that if Miami had won, then Garber probably wouldn't have considered it.
     
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  3. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That NASL attitude of telling tradition to take a hike is exactly what I fear is happening.
     
  4. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So.... the tradition of an amateur tournament? For the majority of it's history the USOC has largely been an amateur tournament has it not? What did people think was going to happen when professional teams were told to participate?

    I wish all of MLS' American teams were participating in the USOC still. Maybe they will next year (probably not), who knows? With the increasing number of professional teams in the US, the increasing number of FIFA international dates/games/tournaments something is going to give. Players aren't robots. Even before Leagues Cup MLS teams were playing in excess of 40 games a season.
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It wasn't intended to be an amateur tournament. We've had an annual National Amateur Cup since 1923.
     
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  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the early MLS days where league matches served as qualifiers for the USOC, so not all top level teams played in it.
     
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  7. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.

    Fall River Marksmen, Bethlehem Steel, St. Louis Stix, St. Louis Simpkins, Philadelphia Nationals, Brookhatten, New Bedford Whalers and the rest of the top teams that played in the Open Cup from the 1910s to the 1950s were not amateur. They weren't a place to get rich. A lot of them would better be called semipro than fully professional, but they were not amateur.
     
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  8. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the reason why the National Amateur Cup was started in 1923 is that the amateurs were getting dominated by the pros in the Open Cup and needed a place of their own.
     
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  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the Greek-Americans/New York Apollo were professional when the won the Open Cup in 1974, though I don't know if they fielded separate teams in the ASL and Open Cup.
     
  10. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    20115 @ Houston
     
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  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #286 JasonMa, Apr 21, 2024
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    Before you ask it was 32 degrees, 100% humidity, and snowing after getting ~4" overnight. And bot the Rockies and Nuggets were hosting games at the same time (in the Nuggets case Game 1 of the playoff series with the Lakers).

    Also its 420 in Colorado...
     
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  12. CalvinKnox

    CalvinKnox Member

    Sep 6, 2008
    Columbus,OH
    42,600 in Atlanta
    24,108 in Toronto
     
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  13. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Miami checks in with 21,398.
    Chicago 14,247
    Seattle 30,550
     
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  14. sportie1

    sportie1 Member

    Sep 4, 2008
    Seattle's attendance has lost over 10 000 fans/game over the past 2-3 years- most MLS teams are going the other way... slowly
     
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  15. AhiTun4

    AhiTun4 Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 16, 2024
    Los Angeles, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dunno if its performance inconsistency or too pricey to go to games. Other Seattle teams have good attendance and Sounders have a very good fanbase.
     
  16. AhiTun4

    AhiTun4 Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 16, 2024
    Los Angeles, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn being from Houston this reminds me of those days. Youth soccer ended by May because everyone would have been hit by a laser should it go into June.
     
  17. AhiTun4

    AhiTun4 Member

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Mar 16, 2024
    Los Angeles, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Attendances we still need:
    Columbus
    Montreal
    NYCFC
    Kansas City
    LAFC

    We will get Charlotte and LA Galaxy today.
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These things can be cyclical. Houston and Vancouver's attendances fell off but seem to be recovering. There were a lot visibly empty seats in Chester for a couple of seasons but now they're tough to find
    Seattle probably need a new coach and a couple of star players.
     
  19. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does the fact that Seattle's attendance has faded since its glory days beg the question of whether Atlanta's attendance will do the same at some point?
     
  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes, it seems they are on their way to lower attendance. They no longer get 60k+ every time they open the upper deck.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fresh seat smell inevitably wears off at some point.
     
  22. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It has to be performance. Fans stop caring if team is bad. It's the "American way". It's one of several reasons why ProRel won't work.
     
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  23. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NYCFC: 21,073
    SKC: 19,637
    Crew: 20,614
    Mtl: 19,619
     
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  24. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    It happened during the pandemic though. Some people just didn't come back after.
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If NYC can maintain 20k without a permanent home or any noteworthy players it bodes well for the new stadium.
     
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