2024 LH US Open Cup

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  1. Deuceeeee

    Deuceeeee Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States Virgin Islands
    May 11, 2021
    #76 Deuceeeee, Apr 25, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2024
    "Your first "point" is [patently false. There is nothing other than money preventing anyone from starting a rival D1 Men's Pro Soccer League."

    Except, ofc, for the Div 1 PLS sanctioning which is curated to MLS, contains provisions for market size and owner net-worth, that happen to only fit MLS and not USL, and least withstanding, the idea that USSF which is under full MLS regulatory capture, would sanction another Division 1 soccer league.
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    Lets see, Colorado Switchbacks are only 500k people away from that...same with El Paso, Hartford etc...

    40m to be able to run a team, huh? Thats odd. Almost like running a soccer team doesnt cost nearly that much, nor do most USL owners have that money? What happened to there is nothing stopping anyone from getting Div 1 sanctioning? Except, ofc, reality.
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    And ofc youd have to get past the pro council...which MLS happens to have a supermajority of.

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    Bottom Line: USSF, American soccer's governing body, who regulates our ecosystem and has the power (through its ability to sanction divisions) to pick winners and losers in the marketplace, & practically controlled by MLS, institutes anti-competitive policy to protect MLS.
     
  2. Deuceeeee

    Deuceeeee Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States Virgin Islands
    May 11, 2021
    Hey pal why didnt MLS/SUM put anything into USOC for the many years they ran the tournament?
     
  3. Deuceeeee

    Deuceeeee Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States Virgin Islands
    May 11, 2021
    ". League stadiums must meet the following parameters: 1. All stadiums/arenas must be enclosed. 2. All league stadiums must have a minimum seating capacity of 15,000"

    Oh and I forgot!

    Min 15k stadium capacity....

    There is nothing stopping anyone though right? Except for literally multiple things. Mind you many EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, and some of the biggest clubs in the world don't meet these requirements...

    Like the current Bundesliga champions. Leverkusen with a population of 163k...
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're at that old joke where we've established what the leagues are and we're just arguing over price, right? Because again, nobody is throwing a fit over the various teams (most recently Gateshead) who run into problems when they're promoted and get threatened with being blocked from promotion unless they make stadium and other upgrades in the so-called "open" systems in Europe, but when MLS does it we hear "cartel" and "anti-competitive". Which means people aren't actually pissed off by the fact that those type of rules exist, they're just pissed off at whatever level MLS has set those rules at.

    If you can't afford it, its not MLS's job to bring the price down.
     
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  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  6. Deuceeeee

    Deuceeeee Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States Virgin Islands
    May 11, 2021
    Dumbass comment. MLS business model is about artificial scarcity through regulatory capture of USSF
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if anyone has experience with dumbass comments...
     
  8. Deuceeeee

    Deuceeeee Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States Virgin Islands
    May 11, 2021
    here you go pal. More brain cells in that one post than the ones that make up your entire brain.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Tuesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 32

    Tuesday, May 7
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL-C) 0-1 FC Tulsa (USL-C)
    Atlanta United (MLS) 3-0 Charlotte Independence (USL-1)
    FC Dallas (MLS) 1-0 Memphis 901 FC (USL-C)
    Houston Dynamo (MLS) 3-3 (pks 9-10) Detroit City (USL-C)
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 1-0 Oakland Roots SC (USL-C)
    Orange County SC (USL-C) 1-2 Loudoun United FC (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 2-0 Monterey Bay FC (USL-C)

    Wednesday, May 8
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) v. South Georgia Tormenta FC (USL-1) 7:00 pm
    North Carolina FC (USL-C) v. Phoenix Rising (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) v. San Antonio FC (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    NYCFC II (NP) v. Colorado Springs Switchbacks (USL-C) 7:30 pm
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) v. Birmingham Legion FC (USL-C) 7:30 pm
    Union Omaha (USL-1) v. Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 8:00 pm
    New Mexico United (USL-C) v. Real Salt Lake (MLS) 9:00 pm
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) v. Louisville City FC (USL-C) 10:30 pm
    Las Vegas Lights FC (USL-C) v. Los Angeles FC (MLS) 10:30 pm

    The 16 winners advance to the Round of 16, May 21 or 22.
     
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  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #85 newtex, May 9, 2024
    Last edited: May 9, 2024
    Wednesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 32

    Tuesday, May 7
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds (USL-C) 0-1 FC Tulsa (USL-C)
    Atlanta United (MLS) 3-0 Charlotte Independence (USL-1)
    FC Dallas (MLS) 1-0 Memphis 901 FC (USL-C)
    Houston Dynamo (MLS) 3-3 (pks 9-10) Detroit City (USL-C)
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 1-0 Oakland Roots SC (USL-C)
    Orange County SC (USL-C) 1-2 Loudoun United FC (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 2-0 Monterey Bay FC (USL-C)

    Wednesday, May 8
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) 3-2 South Georgia Tormenta FC (USL-1)
    North Carolina FC (USL-C) 1-2 Phoenix Rising (USL-C)
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) 2-0 San Antonio FC (USL-C)
    NYCFC II (NP) 1-0 Colorado Springs Switchbacks (USL-C)
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) 6-4 Birmingham Legion FC (USL-C)
    Union Omaha (USL-1) 1-2 Sporting Kansas City (MLS)
    New Mexico United (USL-C) 4-2 Real Salt Lake (MLS)
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) 2-2 (pks 5-4) Louisville City FC (USL-C)
    Las Vegas Lights FC (USL-C) 1-3 Los Angeles FC (MLS)

    The 16 winners advance to the Round of 16, May 21 or 22.
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 16

    Tuesday, May 21
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) v. Atlanta United (MLS) 7:00 pm
    NYCFC II (NP) v. New Mexico United (USL-C) 7:30 pm
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Tulsa (USL-C) 8:30 pm
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) v. San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 10:00 pm
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) v. Loudoun United FC (USL-C) 10:30 pm

    Wednesday, May 8
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) v. Detroit City (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) v. Phoenix Rising (USL-C) 10:30 pm

    The 8 winners advance to the Quarterfinals on July 9/10.
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 16

    Tuesday, May 21
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) v. Atlanta United (MLS) 7:00 pm
    NYCFC II (NP) v. New Mexico United (USL-C) 7:30 pm
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Tulsa (USL-C) 8:30 pm
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) v. San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 10:00 pm
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) v. Loudoun United FC (USL-C) 10:30 pm

    Wednesday, May 22
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) v. Detroit City (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) v. Phoenix Rising (USL-C) 10:30 pm

    The 8 winners advance to the Quarterfinals on July 9/10.
     
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  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Tuesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 16

    Tuesday, May 21
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) 0-0 (pks 4-5) Atlanta United (MLS)
    NYCFC II (NP) 0-3 New Mexico United (USL-C)
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 4-0 FC Tulsa (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 4-3 (aet) San Jose Earthquakes (MLS)
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) 3-0 Loudoun United FC (USL-C)

    Wednesday, May 22
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) v. Detroit City (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) v. Phoenix Rising (USL-C) 10:30 pm

    The 8 winners advance to the Quarterfinals on July 9/10.
     
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  15. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, and here's the quarterfinals, as drawn tonight:

    FC Dallas (MLS) v. Sporting Kansas City (MLS)
    Atlanta United (MLS) v. Indy Eleven (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic FC (USL-C) v. the winner of Seattle Sounders (MLS) vs. Phoenix Rising (USL-C)
    New Mexico United (USL-C) v. LAFC (MLS)
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Wednesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 16

    Tuesday, May 21
    Charleston Battery (USL-C) 0-0 (pks 4-5) Atlanta United (MLS)
    NYCFC II (NP) 0-3 New Mexico United (USL-C)
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 4-0 FC Tulsa (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 4-3 (aet) San Jose Earthquakes (MLS)
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) 3-0 Loudoun United FC (USL-C)

    Wednesday, May 22
    Indy Eleven (USL-C) 3-0 Detroit City (USL-C)
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USL-C) 1-2 FC Dallas (MLS)
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) 2-1 Phoenix Rising (USL-C)

    The quarterfinals (July 9/10) have been drawn:

    East
    Atlanta United v. Indy Eleven
    Sporting Kansas City v. FC Dallas

    West
    Sacramento Republic v. Seattle Sounders
    Los Angeles FC v. New Mexico United
     
  17. InWoodbridge

    InWoodbridge Member

    D.C. United
    United States
    Aug 21, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would really love to see a USL-C team win the whole thing this year!
     
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  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET
    Streaming for free on MLS Season Pass

    Quarterfinals

    Tuesday, July 9
    Atlanta United (MLS) v. Indy Eleven (USL-C) 7:00 pm
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) v. Seattle Sounders (MLS) 11:00 pm

    Wednesday, July 10
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 9:00 pm
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) v. New Mexico United (USL-C) 11:00 pm

    The 4 winners advance to the Semifinals on August 27-28.
     
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  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Tuesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET
    Streaming for free on MLS Season Pass

    Quarterfinals

    Tuesday, July 9
    Atlanta United (MLS) 1-2 Indy Eleven (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 1-2 Seattle Sounders (MLS)

    Wednesday, July 10
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 9:00 pm
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) v. New Mexico United (USL-C) 11:00 pm

    The 4 winners advance to the Semifinals on August 27-28.
     
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Wednesday results:

    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET
    Streaming for free on MLS Season Pass

    Quarterfinals

    Tuesday, July 9
    Atlanta United (MLS) 1-2 Indy Eleven (USL-C)
    Sacramento Republic (USL-C) 1-2 Seattle Sounders (MLS)

    Wednesday, July 10
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) 2-1 (aet) FC Dallas (MLS)
    Los Angeles FC (MLS) 3-1 New Mexico United (USL-C)

    The 4 winners advance to the Semifinals on August 27-28.
     
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  21. usadcu

    usadcu Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    Alexandria, VA
    Quite a run by Indy Eleven under less than ideal circumstances around the team's future.
     
  22. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With MLS's aversion to anything that is not Mesi or Leagues cup, I am rooting hard for INDY.
    I guess 109 years of history means nothing to MLS. WHEN you are trying to make you league credible, why would you walk away from so much history? Wish USSF had a bigger backbone on this issue. Not sure what the history is going to be going forward...not overly optimistic.
     
  23. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET
    Streaming for free on MLS Season Pass

    Semifinals

    Tuesday, August 27
    Sporting Kansas City (MLS) v. Indy Eleven (USL-C) 8:00 pm
    Seattle Sounders (MLS) v. Los Angeles FC (MLS) 10:30 pm

    The Final will be September 25.
     

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