News: 2024 Eastern Conference Playoff Chase

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    ***Above standings edited for TOAST.***
     
  2. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, not that it was in much doubt, but the results have set it up so that if Miami wins the head to head on Wednesday, they clinch the Shield. A draw would still leave the door slightly ajar for the Galaxy.
     
  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was pointed out elsewhere, but:

    Crew fans in 2023: "What's the shield really mean, FCC?"

    Crew fans in 2024: "If we beat Miami, win out and they stumble vs New England..."
     
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  4. ColumbusFTW

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    Jul 18, 2018
    I think there are two differences:

    1) The main reason most of us are interested isn't the trophy itself, it's preventing Miami from getting a data point for the Club World Cup spot

    2) Crew fans aren't going to claim a league championship if we win the Shield and then lose in the playoffs
     
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  5. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    And if you win it that means your having home field advantage throughout the playoffs.



    On another thought FCC has a brutal schedule and might not get more than 3 points total

    @NYCFC
    Orlando
    @Philly
     
  6. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    Pertaining to the Club World Cup, I know that venues were just announced. But theres still no TV deal. And thats a pretty enormous piece of the puzzle still missing. On the Total Soccer Show podcast in the last week or so, a journalist on there from the Guardian predicted that the CWC doesnt happen next summer. Theres just still too much left to do, too much player consternation, too much probable fan ambivalence, for it to seem like this thing is going to happen as FIFA hopes.

    Seeing the Columbus Crew take on Real Madrid et al in a game that kind of means something could still be far off, or something that never happens, unfortunately.
     
  7. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    MLS Cup is the number one trophy. Period. That's always been the case, and it's still the case even while we're contending for the Shield. We're doing math on the Shield because it's the only trophy available for winning RIGHT NOW.
     
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  8. KCbus

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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #183 KCbus, Oct 2, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2024
    Wednesday, 10/2:
    ATL 1:2 MTL
    CLT 4:3 CHI
    NYC 3:2 CIN
    ORL 2:1 PHI
    TOR 1:4 RBNY
    CLB 2:3 MIA
    HOU 2:1 NE
    NSH 3:4 DC




    Team Points Wins GD (GR, Max)
    MIA 68 20 +25 (2, 74)
    CLB 57 16 +26 (3, 66)
    CIN 56 17 +11 (2, 62)
    ORL 49 14 +8 (2, 55)
    -----------------------------------------
    NYC 47 13 +5 (2, 53)
    RBNY 47 11 +7 (2, 53)
    CLT 45 12 +4 (2, 51)
    MTL 40 10 -16 (2, 46)
    TOR 37 11 -20 (1, 40)
    ------------------------------------------
    PHI 37 9 +9 (2, 43)
    DC 37 9 -12 (2, 43)
    ATL 34 8 -5 (2, 40)
    NSH 33 8 -17 (2, 39)
    NE 31 9 -28 (3, 40)

    Miami win the Shield. Crew hang onto 2nd because Cincy loses in Charlotte. NYC, the Red Bulls and Charlotte all clinch with wins. Montreal help their cause tremendously with a win in Atlanta.

    Wow... Nashville had a 3-1 lead at home late. Benteke nets his 22nd of the season late, and then Gabriel Pirani scores a stoppage time brace to give DC a 4-3 comeback win. DC moves into a points tie for 9th and 10th, while Nashville blows a huge opportunity.

    Atlanta becomes TOAST. They'll likely need to win their remaining two matches, and even that doesn't guarantee them anything.
     
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  9. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    Well DC's comeback essentially means that Philly need a result Saturday. We will face them and future Messi down Camacho and Sean. Not to mention, Moreira had his hamstring wrapped and was struggling tonight. We might want to pack this one in.

    And for the shield
    1841661263287366032 is not a valid tweet id
     
  10. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @LaMacchia : clinched the SS.
    I really hate to point this out, but if these standings hold, we’ll be playing Charlotte—our trap team who has the worst, injury-inducing turf in MLS—correct??
     
  11. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    United States
    F**k.

    Well, the good news (if you want to call it that) is that we'll be playing the best of 3, with two home games.
     
  12. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 14, 2018
    Judging by the remaining SoS for the three teams below 4, Charlotte has the toughest and will likely remain trapped in 7th.

    DOOOOOMMM
     
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  13. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldn't they just grab some random old lady out of the stands?


    It's incredibly fun-sized stupid that they have the biggest star in the world past Cucho, but they don't have an organized ISG.

    Then again, once he leaves, all those fanbois are gonna go back to their "MLS is weak trash" game. There's a difference between fans of a team and fans of a player.
     
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  14. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

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    Dec 14, 2018
    Check that NYRB might. Crew could potentially face the red bulls 4 times in a row. We will do some mass speculating after Saturday. I'd take the red bulls over either of NYC or Charlotte. Montreal could magically jump up, but I don't see it.
     
  15. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    Agreed, I would love to draw the Red Bulls over needing to play on the two worst fields in MLS. I have said for months that Charlotte is the team I least want to play in the opening round because they just hack people and it makes an already dangerous surface even more dangerous.
     
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  16. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
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    Dec 14, 2018
    Charlotte and NYC would also come with some bad kickoff dates/times. Maybe the AL Central wins something for once and clears up the calendar for Yankee stadium.
     
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  17. LaMacchia

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    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Autocorrect got me.
     
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  18. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Toronto lost in stoppage time 1-0 to Miami. They're basically done. They're the bye team on Decision Day, so their season is over. They're currently in the final wild card spot, but a single point for Philly or DC in two remaining games for both teams eliminates them.
     
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  19. KCbus

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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saturday, 10/5
    TOR 0:1 MIA
    ATL 2:1 RBNY
    CLT 2:0 MTL
    CIN 1:3 ORL
    CLB 3:2 PHI
    NE 1:2 DC


    Team Points Wins GD (GR, Max)
    MIA 71 21 +26 (1, 74)
    CLB 60 17 +27 (2, 66)
    CIN 56 17 +9 (1, 59)

    ORL 52 15 +10 (1, 55)
    -----------------------------------------
    CLT
    48 13 +6 (1, 51)
    NYC 47 13 +5 (2, 53)
    RBNY 47 11 +6 (1, 50)
    DC 40 10 -11 (1, 43)
    MTL 40 10 -14 (1, 43)
    ------------------------------------------
    TOR WHACKED
    PHI 37 9 +8 (1, 40)
    ATL 37 9 -4 (1, 40)
    NSH SCREWED
    NE ADIOS

    So... much to discuss.

    Miami's late goal in Toronto, along with other results, keeps Miami's hopes alive to break the MLS points record, and eliminates Toronto. New England falls to DC and falls out of contention. Nashville was idle today, but they're also eliminated as DC's win puts them out of reach.

    The Crew's win vs Philly and Orlando's win in Cincinnati have big ramifications. Not only do the Crew lock up the second spot in the East, but Cincinnati is now locked into third with no possibility of moving up or down.

    Meaningful Decision Day matchups:

    • Charlotte @ DC
    • NYC @ Montreal
    • Cincinnati @ Philadelphia
    • Atlanta @ Orlando

    NYC has two matches left. If they win both of them, they could jump up and take Orlando's home field advantage away from them. If they win both matches and Orlando draws against Atlanta on Decision Day, it would actually come down to goal differential. If Orlando beats Atlanta, they win the four seed.

    The bottom two spots are interesting. DC and Montreal are tied for 8th and 9th with 40 points and 10 wins. Philly and Atlanta both have 37 points and 9 wins. Meaning Philly and Atlanta could both force ties on both wins AND points. And oddly enough, the teams BELOW the line have the better GDs. Philly is the only team with a positive GD, so they would beat all three foes if it comes down to that. Atlanta would edge out DC and Montreal in such a scenario. And of course, DC and/or Montreal can avoid all this by just not losing.

    Oh, and for posterity's sake, Philadelphia Union are officially TOAST.
     
  20. Paul171121

    Paul171121 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 14, 2018
    The galaxy scare me a bit. Think they are set up to really go up against our defensive shape and rotations.
     
  21. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
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    Columbus Crew
    Our next two still matter. We need to maximize points to retain MLS Cup hosting against all Western Conference opponents. Win out and we secure it. Might be possible to just win one, depending on results for the LAs.
     
  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is only true if the Galaxy blow their lead in the next seven minutes.
     
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  23. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Austin's season ends in disgrace with a dirty red card by Biro at the death.

    All the teams in the West are decided, and it's just down to positioning now.

    If the Crew win out, they finish with 66 points. LA would get to 67 with a win on Decision Day. So the Crew would need LA to falter against Houston to have the advantage.
     
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  24. hardhead

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    Aug 19, 2008
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    You're right. I didn't realize I was looking at a live table when I wrote that. It was still a draw at that time.
     
  25. TRUJDUB21

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    Sep 28, 2021
    #200 TRUJDUB21, Oct 6, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2024
    LAG is in the West last I checked this is a playoff or Shield discussion. Has nothing to do with ECF playoff chase. But is a good topic and important factor.

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    Miami could face DC/MTL/ Philly/ATL 1st round and then the 4/5 as of now is Red hot Orlando & Charlotte.

    The Crew potentially playing NYRB 2v7 and then the 3v6 winner FCC vrs NYC.

    Not sure all the scenarios but I definitely want to keep Orlando & Charlotte on the Miami half of the Bracket.Also would hope Philly or DC play Miami as MTL & ATL are not good enough to challenge them especially ATL.
     

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