News: 2024 Eastern Conference Playoff Chase

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  1. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Yup till someone blinks lol
     
  2. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    I think we beat Seattle they have to come here. I do think Schulte would be a huge help and it looks like he won’t play so we just need to step it up. We will still be favored to win and should win. I take it one game at a time knowing again we want to win every game. Win the games in hand beat Miami. In Miami’s other 6 games we need them to draw or lose. If they win all 6 matches we will be 1 point behind them. No reason we can’t win 6 games and catch them.

    Miami is the favorite and in the drivers seat and nobody said otherwise. We don’t need miracles to pass them. We need them to drop one result. So you can keep you glass half empty outlook. This team is going to try and win the shield and I hope they do it. If you feel better by saying it won’t happen then so be it.

    Hope your not one of those guys who leaves the stadium or turns the TV off when the Crew are down 0-2 to Miami, FCC etc…


    It’s not impossible for us to win the shield , we literally have the best chance to catch Miami and it all starts Saturday.
     
  3. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    I bet $100 on the Crew before the season at +800

    I been waiting but the odds haven’t got better. Winning MLS cup is really hard. But honestly in the east i can only see 2 teams winning it.
     
  4. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    I never said it was impossible. Dating Sydney Sweeney isn't technically impossible for any of us, but it's extremely improbable.

    "I think we beat Seattle because the game is in Columbus." I think we'd all need to do a wellness check if you ever picked against the Crew. Nancy could set up 11 scarecrows in Crew jerseys and you'd likely pick win by 2. You're the same guy who said he liked Chicago's chances last weekend because the game was in Soldier Field (but for some reason you didn't bet it). I'm one of the guys who said that's wishful thinking and we know what happened next.

    "No reason we can't win games in hand, beat Miami and win another 6 games." Yeah, except that what you've really just said is "no reason we can't finish the season on an 11-game win streak," which dismisses the fact that no team in MLS history has even gotten within a game of doing that. The only teams to "win" 11+ in a row were original teams between 1996-99 who achieved it via shootouts. The longest legitimate regular-season winning streak is nine straight by the 2018 Sounders. No one else in modern MLS has won more than seven straight in the regular season.

    "We have the best chance outside of Miami." Well yeah, because Miami has about an 85% chance and everyone else besides Columbus is less than 1%. If you walked into a casino and were given a chance to gamble on something in which you have an 85% likelihood of losing, a 5% chance of getting your money back, and a 10% chance of doubling your bet, I doubt you'd put a lot of money on it. That's the reality of this race.

    It's like someone in my industry saying "no reason I can't be making $1 million a year." It's not impossible. But then you walk them through the math:

    1) Your company takes 10% so you actually need to generate $1.11 million of annual revenue
    2) An average commission is 1%, so you need $111 million in annual sales
    3) An average sales relationship is $250,000, so you need 444 paying customers
    4) There is only enough time in a 60-80 hour work week to service 125-150 customers, so about 300 of those clients won't even get a courtesy call and will still need to choose to renew annually

    And somewhere along those steps is when reality sets in for folks. $1 million a year is a noble dream that a lot of us strive for and some of us may one day achieve it. But instead of "no reason" there are actually a significant number of big reasons why it might not happen even for the most tenacious and skilled professionals in the field. In other words, it's technically possible but highly improbable in practice.

    There is a difference between optimism and delusion. I'm very optimistic about the Crew. I like their chances of winning another MLS Cup. You on the other hand are delusional.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #80 TrueCrew, Sep 4, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2024
    We won 9 of 10 earlier this season and, counting Leagues Cup, have won 6 of the last 7 with a draw (PK win).

    This team is not normal.

    Is it likely? No. There is no math class needed. But that same math applies to Miami, too. All the naysayers seem to think they will win out, or come close. But it is just impossible for us to go on such a run, despite the fact we have already done so, TWICE, this season?

    Our schedule is more congested, and tougher, than theirs. And we obviously have less margin for error.

    But if we win the next 2, I will start taking, and making, bets. What kinda odds you gonna give me? 10-1? 20-1? 50-1? That is a bargain for you if it is virtually impossible, right?
     
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  6. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    You:
    I think we'd all need to do a wellness check if you ever picked against the Crew.

    lol not true , I pick who I think will win and right now we have been in good form and are home despite missing players. I made plenty of money ver the years bettting against the Bengals and Ohio St Basketball. I call them how I see them.

    Chicago v Miami is irrelevant, Miami has a better chance to lose in the road. I like Atlanta chances when Miami comes there but I won’t bet on it. Columbus lost at Atlanta and that’s a reminder anything can happen. Miami was struggling on the road but Chicago failed to play well and deserved to get run off the pitch.

    you:
    Yeah, except that what you've really just said is "no reason we can't finish the season on an 11-game win streak," which dismisses the fact that no team in MLS history has even gotten within a game of doing that. The only teams to "win" 11+ in a row were original teams between 1996-99 who achieved it via shootouts. The longest legitimate regular-season winning streak is nine straight by the 2018 Sounders. No one else in modern MLS has won more than seven straight in the regular season.

    you are a real Apple & Oranges kinda guy. Cmon man we have explained this multiple times! We don’t need to win 11 in a row. In 6 games we need to make up one point on Miami at least. If they win 4 games we need to win at least 5 etc…

    it’s irrelevant how many games we would win. We won in Mexico , we beat LAFC after never beating them …. It’s one more thing to add to the list

    You’re delusional for thinking we don’t have a chance. Until we are mathematically eliminated we have a chance.

    Step 1
    Winning GIH at home vrs Seattle

    if we lose this match then I’ll agree we have very lil chance , If we win it makes it more likely we can win the shield. I like Columbus to win at home.

    Step2 (on going )
    Match or get more points than Miami

    Step 3
    Beat Miami at home , this is also a midweek travel game for them , again I like Columbus at home

    I don’t think Miami wins every game and we just have to win one more than they do which is hard but very reasonable considering how well we have been playing.


    your not a believer or optimistic which is fine but your mentality is sickening as a Crew fan. I’m glad this team doesn’t have your mindset because we wouldn’t have accomplished half the things we have done. I’m not going to touch your work analogy it’s apples and oranges.
     
  7. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    The man who thinks he can and the man who thinks he can’t are both correct .

    One will do it and one will not even try !

    I believe in Nancy and this team and they will go out swinging! If we don’t win the shield it will be ok but I see us getting at the very least the second best record in MLS which will help in the playoffs. You know it had been a long time since we won at Philadelphia. This team defies all odds. If it was not for food poisoning we would already have 2 trophies this year.


    MLS cup > Shield

    but why not win both !!

    Hope everyone is rooting for us to beat Seattle and doesn’t have hidden love for Miami.
     
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  8. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    My question is how is 2023 mls cup champion not in if the 24 champ is
     
  10. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Struggling on the road? What are you even talking about?

    Miami is 9-2-2 on the road in league play. That is elite for MLS. The record for road wins in a season is 11 (Montreal!); they could potentially crush that.

    Or are you saying winning by a goal isn't impressive? No one gives a damn about the score when you walk away with three points.

    Oh, they lost at Cincy. You mean one of the best teams in the league? Miami must be struggling on the road!

    Dropping road games to Tigres and the Crew in Leagues Cup? Messi and friends aren't good away from Chase Stadium!
     
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  11. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you assume Miami continues at their season-long Points per game...

    Miami has 2.19 PPG, which will be 74.5 points end of season

    So Columbus needs 75 points

    We have 49 points on 25 games for 1.96 PPG

    In order to get to 75 points, the Crew needs to average 2.9 PPG the rest of the season.

    They are currently at 2.7 PPG the last 7 games that you mention here.

    Even IF Miami drops to 2 PPG the rest of the season, they still end up with 73 points.

    The odds of the Crew catching Miami without Miami going on a major skid are extremely small.
     
  12. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    They lost their last few games not just mls games (all comp) and when they won they were winning 1 goal games. I gave a total breakdown with dates and scores. No need for me to explain how they are much better at home again. You’re not looking at the entire picture but only at the stat that you want to promote. Cut the theatrics
     
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  13. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    False , the key is we beat Miami and then we need to make up 1 point on the other 6matches we both have (obviously we have to win the 2 home games in hand )


    It’s really not asking for much. We are more than capable.


    Major skid lol seriously we need them to get one draw or loss …. Don’t sound major to me
     
  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Miami is 8-1-1 (WLD) in their last 10 MLS regular season matches. Columbus is 7-2-1. The deeper into the season we get, the further behind. Just assuming we win our H2H or GIH is wishcasting. We have a difficult match this weekend with several starters out and probably a new goalie. Then a trip to FCC. And host Miami with them only needing a draw. Montreal, Portland, and Charlotte have managed to get draws this year at LDC but Miami can't? Please.
     
  15. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Crew have lost 4 games & Miami have lost 4 games the difference is the games in hand & then they would have one more win while we have one more draw.

    Miami drew with St Louis , Orlando (when they were playing bad), Colorado , Nashville, NYCFC & LAG

    lost to : @FCC 6-1 , vrs ATL, vrs MTL & @nyrb 4-0


    When they lose they give up a lot more goals than your normal super team.

    They are not invincible
     
  16. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one is saying they're invincible.

    But if they go 4W 1T 2L in their last 7, the Crew will have to go 8W 1L or better to catch them
     
  17. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, they lost some away games. Let's look at the losses you highlighted:
    • They lost 1-6 at Cincinnati, one of the best teams in the league.
    • They lost 1-2 "at" Tigres, one of the best teams in CONCACAF, in a game that did not matter.
    • They lost 2-3 at the Crew, reigning MLS Cup champions and #1-ranked team in CONCACAF, after leading the match for more than 65 minutes.
    Those are not bad teams to take an L from, especially away from home (okay, the way they lost to Cincy was hilariously bad).

    I certainly wouldn't look at that run (and their road form over all of 2024) and think, "So they are not very impressive on the road best case scenario they beat Chicago by 1. Good chance they draw and a decent chance they lose." You know, the Chicago team that was ranked 25th in the league at the time and has won fewer games in all of 2024 than Miami has won on the road.

    Oh... but six of Miami's road wins have been by one goal. Again... so what? It's HARD to win on the road in MLS, and you get the same amount of points for a 1-goal win as you do for a 5-goal win. Miami is finding ways to collect maximum points on the road, even if it isn't pretty, while most other teams are not. So far this season, MLS teams have an average of ~4.1 road wins (median = 4, mode = 3). Miami (and Cincinnati) are just miles ahead of most of the league on road form.

    And then there's the basic fact that Miami is the best road team in MLS so far this season. Like, just factually so. They lead the league in away points (29) and points per away match, and they're tied for away wins (9). [They were second before the Chicago game, you deceitful bastard - Ed.] Their goal differential on the road is better than or equal to the goal differential of 17 other MLS teams at home.

    If Miami isn't impressive on the road, who is?

    You also say Miami is much better at home. Is that true? How do you quantify that? I mean, they've taken 30 points at home (2.13 points/game) and 29 on the road (2.23 points/game) in MLS play. Seems pretty close to me. I guess you think goals scored is more important than points? Neat.

    But, sure, it's not fair to just focus on the league. Let's look at the big picture. In all comps, Miami is 9W-5L-3D on the road and 12W-3L-3D at home. Again, that's 30 points (1.76/game) earned on the road and 39 points (2.16/game) at home. Well, that's a bigger gap... but what was the quality of those wins and losses?

    Miami's additional home wins came against Puebla (impressive!), Nashville (hah!), and Toronto (lmao!). And where'd they take those two other road losses aside from the three you highlighted? Monterrey (checks out!) and New York Red Bulls (there are worse teams!).

    So, yeah, Miami has lost five times on the road all season, all comps. Four of the teams that beat them are among the best in North America. And they hardly ever tie. But, yeah, they'll probably struggle against Chicago.

    And, another thing, the only thing I'm promoting is my new book, How to Waste Your Time on the Internet & Other Tales from a BigSoccer Posting Genious. Check your local dumpster for availability!



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  18. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Just wait till after we win Saturday when we have one GIH it will be more clear to everyone if we csn catch them. If we lose Saturday we then it will be difficult and very unlikely. After we win a few more of you might start to wake up.
     
  19. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    This is my exact post :

    Miami on the road :
    Loss 3-2 @Columbus LC match
    Lost 2-1 Tigres LC match neutral site
    Lost 6-1 @FCC
    Won 2-1 @Charoltte
    Won 2-1 @ Nashville
    Won 2-1 @Philly
    Won 2-1 @ Vancouver
    Draw 0-0 @ Orlando

    those are in order by date so yes they were playing better teams and had a great MLS away record but their recent road form was bad no matter how you slice it. Chicago definitely had a better opportunity than had they played at Miami but yes Chicago sucks and they didn’t seize the opportunity. I said they had a chance so all of you can just stop trying to twist my words. I didn’t bet on Chicago i just liked their chances more than some other recent Miami opponents like FCC @ Miami with Lucho not 90 fit. A lot of that has to do with Chicago having 4 home wins vrs 2 road wins and the had only lost 2-1 at Miami and just came off a draw at NYCFC.


    Now everything I just said is facts and what I based my opinion of … I like their chances. I never said how much i like their chances nor did I say they would win. Thx and stop implying nonsense that I didn’t say.
     
  20. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    Entire post is misguided don’t co-sign everything without knowing what I actually said . You don’t agree with my reasoning to my opinion fine but base your dispute off what I actually said.
     
  21. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    This is an excellent breakdown, and I wish to subscribe to your brochure. As far as discussions that have completely derailed threads go, this is certainly another one. But its one I dont mind that much! Because on one side are people who are kind of doubting Wilfred Nancys Columbus Crew (!) Which is famously something that many have come to regret. And on the other side is a person saying things like "The Chicago Fire have a decent chance to win this game at home." When the Chicago Fire are famously the Chicago Fire. Its really something!
     
  22. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got me! It was unfair of me to twist your words by thoroughly responding to your statements in the quoted post, as well as directly quoting you from another post.
     
  23. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *googles how to set up onlyfans for soccer but still naked*
     
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  24. DrunkandDisorderly

    Mar 17, 2008
    Columbus
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  25. KCbus

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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I'm beginning to regret starting this thread.
     
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