2024 Concacaf Champions Cup

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It means a lot of you're a shareholder and want to sell a stake in your club.
     
  2. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. Nico Limmat

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    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Weekend league results:

    Pachuca - Chivas 0:1
    Club America - Toluca 5:1
    Monterrey - Tigres 3:3
    Columbus - RSL 0:0
     
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  4. crookeddy

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    Club America is unstoppable
     
  5. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Oh, Pachuca have a long history of being a rock in América's shoe (e.g. when they ruined Cuauhtémoc Blanco's sendoff) :D
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  7. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only way Crew host the Final is if they win both legs against Monterrey and América and Pachuca somehow draw both their games, right?
     
  8. MuchoTakeItEasy

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    LAFC
    United States
    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are only 2 games left before the final so....
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2024 CONCACAF Champions Cup
    Home team first, times are ET

    Semifinals
    First Leg
    Tuesday, April 23
    C. America (MEX) v. CF Pachuca (MEX) 10:15 pm

    Wednesday, April 24
    Columbus Crew (USA) v. CF Monterrey (MEX) 8:15 pm

    2nd Leg
    Tuesday, April 30
    CF Pachuca (MEX) v. C. America (MEX) 9:15 pm

    Wednesday, May 1
    CF Monterrey (MEX) v. Columbus Crew (USA) 10:15 pm

    Final is scheduled for June 2, although that might be changed if the game is in Mexico due to the national elections.
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

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    Continues into being a manager, too:



    Always aggrieved, no matter what.

    Also related to that game - I feel like MLS takes some heat occasionally when they give CCL teams weekends off early in the season with critiques like "they'd never do that in Europe!"

    Ligue 1 gave PSG the weekend off, La Liga had Barcelona travel to Cadiz.

    Maybe more leagues should ease the burden for their standard-bearers in continental play.
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yep. Columbus might get the “Leagues Cup treatment” if they make the final. All the travel, none of the hosting. :D

    (Higher seed hosting doesn’t make sense to me in a relatively short tournament. Luck of the draw plays a major role.)
     
  12. Nico Limmat

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    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #2237 Nico Limmat, Apr 17, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2024
    Ligue 1 is desperate for a continental title. Much like MLS was until 2022. It’s been more than 30 years since Marseille won.

    Columbus are fortunate now to have three consecutive home games before the decisive second leg in Monterrey. That’s limited travel for them:

    21/04 - Portland
    25/04 - Monterrey
    28/04 - Montreal
    02/05 - @ Monterrey

    Rayados by comparison:

    21/04 - @ Leon
    25/04 - @ Columbus
    29/04 - @ Necaxa
    02/05 - Columbus
     
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  13. DGreat

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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Those games against león and Necaxa are going to be tough on Monterrey. Both teams are fighting for play in spots while Monterrey is protecting it's first round Bye.
     
  14. Minnman

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    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but you don't change the way you play because, for example, Schulte made a boneheaded decision that led to a goal. Gignac didn't do anything special that forced him into making it.

    Nancy may well tweak aspects of the way the Crew play, but he won't deviate from the script to any great extent. If we lose, well, then we lose. All I really hope is that we play to our ability. Schulte's mistake was a highly unusual one for him. It can be devastating when it happens in tournament play, as opposed to an isolated match during the MLS regular season. If we get beat by a better team while playing our game, I'm okay with that. But at home, I'd like to think we have a decent shot at a result in that first match IF we play to our ability. Imagine that the first half of the MLS Cup match in December.

    That second match in Monterrey could be a very different story, of course.
     
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  15. wantmlsphilly

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    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not saying this is an excuse..... I'm saying this could be an excuse if they lose treatment more like it.
     
  16. An Unpaved Road

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    Mar 22, 2006
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    Are Ligue 1 fans in general going to celebrate if PSG wins? The concept still seems weird to me.
     
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  17. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2 draws with America going through. Unless Columbus just destroys Monterrey on GD. I think it would take 2 combs and then some. A practical impossibility.
     
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  18. MuchoTakeItEasy

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    May 16, 2015
    Land of the Free
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
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    Houston Dynamo
    The regulations say that the final will be at a neutral site but that Concacaf reserves the right to grant hosting to the team with the highest standing in the tournament.

    It is Rule 12.8.

    https://www.concacaf.com/champions-cup/regulations/
     
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  20. Paul Calixte

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    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering Marseille fans took to the streets to celebrate when PSG lost the 2020 UCL Final, I highly doubt it :D

    Right, the regulations allowed for that flexibility; but Concacaf confirmed in their semifinal schedule announcement that they've decided to pass on the neutral-venue option and let the finalist with the better record do the honors.
     
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  21. Nico Limmat

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    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
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    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #2246 Nico Limmat, Apr 18, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2024
    Who said anything about fans? The Ligue de Football Professionnel, governing body of Ligue 1, would probably like to have a UEFA Champions League winner after a long dry spell. They are therefore more likely to accommodate PSG scheduling requests.

    You know, like MLS used to do?
    https://www.espn.co.uk/football/sto...les-toronto-fc-red-bulls-games-ccl-semifinals
     
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  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is weird.

    I grew up watching the European Cup in England.

    You sort of want the team from your domestic league to win because you're familiar with the players but you also gloat when they go out.

    If there was no English team in the final I wouldn't pay much attention.

    So PSG in the final would be a no-lose situation for most French fans. They'd be happy to see a French team win but annoyed that it's PSG.

    You'll see what I mean when Seattle wins the CWC.
     
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  23. The Marquis

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    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not all of them, but I think there's a general feeling amongst the Ligue 1 fans I know that they want to see a Ligue 1 side win Europe. The only real chance is with PSG, and everybody knows that.
    Did you see how well they did the last time Seattle was in the CWC? Sure, new format, but that means even more quality clubs to play and lose to.
     
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #2249 Nico Limmat, Apr 18, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2024
    I think this is largely true for casual fans. They are less likely hung up on club affiliation.

    And duration of the league’s dry spell may factor into it. How many held their nose and supported Seattle because of 20+ years? :D
     
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  25. An Unpaved Road

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    I see fans rooting for leagues over teams all the time in soccer.
     
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