2024 Concacaf Champions Cup

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  1. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That, and playing "home" games in their opponent's stadium in Costa Rica... At least when they played in Bermuda it was a neutral site.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Concacaf Club Rankings

    Here are the current rankings (11/20/23) for the clubs that have clinched spots in the 2024 Concacaf Champions Cup.
    https://www.concacaf.com/rankings/club/
    I also included the MLS and Caribbean clubs that are still alive to qualify in Gray.

    Teams in Blue have already qualified for the Round of 16 so their ranking doesn't affect the draw for Round One.

    1. Club America, Liga MX 1,253
    2. CF Monterrey, Liga MX 1,250
    3. Tigres UANL, Liga MX 1,231
    --------------------------------------------------
    6. Philadelphia Union, MLS 1,217
    5. Toluca, Liga MX 1,212
    7. Guadalajara, Liga MX 1,208
    8. Pachuca, Liga MX 1,207
    9. Orlando City, MLS 1,203
    10. Los Angeles FC, MLS 1,200
    11. Columbus Crew, MLS 1,195
    13. Nashville SC, MLS 1,191
    14. Seattle Sounders, MLS 1,191
    15. FC Cincinnati, MLS 1,190
    21. Inter Miami, MLS 1,182
    22. Sporting Kansas City, MLS 1,181
    23. New England Revolution, MLS 1,179

    25. Houston Dynamo, MLS 1,177
    --------------------------------------------------------
    33. Vancouver Whitecaps, MLS 1,170
    44. LD Alajelense, PD Costa Rica 1,150
    46. D. Saprissa, PD Costa Rica 1,146
    47. St. Louis CITY, MLS 1,144
    51. Comunicaciones, Guatemala LNFG 1,123
    52. CS Herediano, PD Costa Rica 1,123
    53. Cavalry FC, CPL 1,115
    55. CA Independiente, Panama LPF 1,113
    56. Forge FC, CPL 1,111
    72. Real Esteli, Nicaragua LNF 1,073
    102. Cavalier FC, Jamaica PL 1,039
    109. Robinhood, Suriname 1,028

    113. Moca FC, Dominican Republic LDF 1,023
    131. Harbour View FC, Jamaica PL 1,001


    The rankings include international and domestic competition so they change weekly.
     
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  3. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get rewarding the champ of the Caribbean Cup, but man putting a team ranked in the 100's directly into the Round of 16 is something.

    In other news, looks like Houston is pretty much in Pot 2 at this point unless they manage to pull off MLS Cup...right?
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Yep. Looks that way. I don't see any way that the Dynamo could drop down.
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Concacaf Club Rankings

    Here are the current rankings (11/27/23) for the clubs that have clinched spots in the 2024 Concacaf Champions Cup.
    https://www.concacaf.com/rankings/club/
    I also included the MLS and Caribbean clubs that are still alive to qualify in Gray.

    Teams in Blue have already qualified for the Round of 16 so their ranking doesn't affect the draw for Round One.

    1. Club America, Liga MX 1,253
    2. CF Monterrey, Liga MX 1,250
    3. Tigres UANL, Liga MX 1,231
    --------------------------------------------------
    5. Philadelphia Union, MLS 1,214
    6. Toluca, Liga MX 1,212
    7. Guadalajara, Liga MX 1,208
    8. Pachuca, Liga MX 1,207
    10. Orlando City, MLS 1,200
    9. Los Angeles FC, MLS 1,203
    11. Columbus Crew, MLS 1,198
    13. FC Cincinnati, MLS 1,192
    14. Nashville SC, MLS 1,191
    21. Inter Miami, MLS 1,182
    22. Houston Dynamo, MLS 1,179
    23. New England Revolution, MLS 1,179
    --------------------------------------------------------
    33. Vancouver Whitecaps, MLS 1,170
    44. D. Saprissa, PD Costa Rica 1,148
    45. LD Alajelense, PD Costa Rica 1,147
    47. St. Louis CITY, MLS 1,144
    51. CS Herediano, PD Costa Rica 1,125
    52. Comunicaciones, Guatemala LNFG 1,121
    53. Cavalry FC, CPL 1,115
    54. CA Independiente, Panama LPF 1,113
    56. Forge FC, CPL 1,111
    74. Real Esteli, Nicaragua LNF 1,071
    100. Cavalier FC, Jamaica PL 1,040
    110. Robinhood, Suriname 1,028

    114. Moca FC, Dominican Republic LDF 1,023
    133. Harbour View FC, Jamaica PL 1,001


    The rankings include international and domestic competition so they change weekly.
     
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  6. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I may have spoke too soon...with Seattle and Kansas City out of the picture (every team on the East side has already qualified and is above Houston), all Houston needs is for LAFC to not win MLS Cup to get into the top 11 and Pot A (if I'm reading the rankings correctly)? I doubt Alajuelense can catch them even if they do win the Central American Cup.
     
  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    If LAFC wins MLS Cup they go straight into the Round of 16 like Pachuca and Miami. Same thing for whoever wins the Central American Cup. That would not drop Houston below 11th of the 22 teams in the First Round.
     
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  8. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  10. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They already are qualified for CCC now and had a chance to make it to the second round but going back to Costa Rica down 3-0 would take a miracle to win the Central American Cup. The stadium looked totally filled with fans, so once again these Cup qualifying tournaments are looking like they are here to stay.
     
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  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mind you, attendance figures have improved significantly since the group stage.

    Then again, Olimpia crashing out early may well convince fans of all teams to show up from the start next time...
     
  12. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully the tournament will grow the region more as CONCACAF needs more quality in domestic leagues.
     
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  13. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Highlights of the first leg of the Caribbean Cup.
     
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  14. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey @Athlone is there a particular reason that club attendances in Jamaica have been far lower than for most other countries involved in the Caribbean Cup?

    ...ok, to be fair: the crowds have been solid in Suriname, good in the DR, and abysmal in Jamaica and Trinibago.
     
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  15. Athlone

    Athlone Member+

    Feb 2, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Jamaicans just don't take football seriously enough to turn out for these kinds of games. Really that simple

    The best schoolboy/high school football teams are the best at getting consistent support from Jamaican fans (Jamaicans love their high schools and are quite fanatic about their track and football teams), but everything else is dicey. Add to that the fact that this is a new competition that isn't terribly well known among local fans and you have a recipe for very low attendance.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Concacaf Club Rankings

    Here are the current rankings (12/4/23) for the clubs that have clinched spots in the 2024 Concacaf Champions Cup.
    https://www.concacaf.com/rankings/club/
    I also included the MLS and Caribbean clubs that are still alive to qualify in Gray.

    Teams in Blue have already qualified for the Round of 16 so their ranking doesn't affect the draw for Round One.

    1. Club America, Liga MX 1,255
    2. CF Monterrey, Liga MX 1,243
    3. Tigres UANL, Liga MX 1,233
    --------------------------------------------------
    5. Philadelphia Union, MLS 1,214
    6. Toluca, Liga MX 1,212
    7. Pachuca, Liga MX 1,207
    8. Guadalajara, Liga MX 1,205
    9. Los Angeles FC, MLS 1,205
    10. Columbus Crew, MLS 1,201
    11. Orlando City, MLS 1,200
    13. Nashville SC, MLS 1,191
    14. FC Cincinnati, MLS 1,189
    21. Inter Miami, MLS 1,182
    23. New England Revolution, MLS 1,179
    26. Houston Dynamo, MLS 1,178
    --------------------------------------------------------
    33. Vancouver Whitecaps, MLS 1,170
    44. D. Saprissa, PD Costa Rica 1,149
    45. LD Alajelense, PD Costa Rica 1,148
    47. St. Louis CITY, MLS 1,144
    49. CS Herediano, PD Costa Rica 1,127
    52. Comunicaciones, Guatemala LNFG 1,121
    53. Cavalry FC, CPL 1,115
    54. CA Independiente, Panama LPF 1,115
    55. Forge FC, CPL 1,111
    74. Real Esteli, Nicaragua LNF 1,069
    102. Cavalier FC, Jamaica PL 1,038
    108. Robinhood, Suriname 1,030

    109. Moca FC, Dominican Republic LDF 1,026
    136. Harbour View FC, Jamaica PL 998


    The rankings include international and domestic competition so they change weekly.
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So at this point, we can pencil in América and the Monterrey teams as the top 3 teams that will be pre-seeded in the first round, with only the order subject to change depending on their current Apertura playoff performances, right?

    On the other hand, it looks like Pachuca will join the Revs in cheering for Columbus on Saturday, 'cause LAFC could shoot to the top seed among those going straight to the R16 if they win.
     
  18. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If LAFC lose MLS Cup, this could be the best/worst year of their franchise. Yikes!
     
  19. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I think that is right on both parts.
     
  20. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has there been confirmation that this year's MLS Cup winner is in the 2025 Club World Cup?
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would it be?

    To be fair, there's absolutely no precedent to work with here - I mean, who's to say that the host shouldn't be the best-ranked team among all the domestic league champs in the last four years? - but if they want the most recent champ in, nothing to be lost by waiting for MLS Cup 2024.
     
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  22. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I was thinking MLS Cup winners not CCL (CCC now), but I agree if they let the "host" in then it will most likely be the 2024 winner of MLS Cup.

    Old article but they spell it out pretty well here assuming nothing has changed:
    Seattle Sounders guaranteed spot in expanded 2025 FIFA Club World Cup | MLSSoccer.com
     
  23. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The next 3 calendar years are going to be a lot of fun as North American based fans of MLS and frankly soccer in general. Lots to look forward to.
     
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  24. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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