2024 Concacaf Champions Cup

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  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with this, although with the creation of the Ohio Health Performance Center on the grounds of Historical Crew Stadium, I think the "same level of investment" needs to be noted as "pre Haslam" and "post Haslam".

    After Lamar Hunt died his sons neglected Columbus and Precourt actively tried to kill the team completely.

    All aspects of the team and facilities has changed since Dee Haslam took over ownership.
     
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  2. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair neglecting Columbus is pretty common.
     
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  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With all due respect, were you alive when DC was last relevant?
     
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  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The team? Or the City? Sure. I was alive in 2006/7 and 2013.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2705 TrueCrew, May 17, 2024
    Last edited: May 17, 2024
    If only it was accurate.

    3rd best league record is not mid table. Nor is 2 MLS Cups.

    If Columbus win the final (knock on wood), they will be the first team to hold MLS Cup and the CONCACAF crown at the same time.

    1998 DC won CONCACAF and won the 1999 MLS Cup, but the 1999 CONCACAF title was decided a month before, Necaxa over Alajuelense.

    LA won CONCACAF in 2000 but their first MLS win was 2002.

    Seattle won CONCACAF in 2022, but their mostcrecent MLS win was 2019.
     
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  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Further, 2022 Columbus led the league in goals, goal difference, and possession, IIRC.

    That is not a mid table team.
     
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  7. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the long layoff for Pachuca...that hurts or helps them? I'm leaning towards hurts since they'll be out of the weekly game rhythm, but more rest is never a bad thing either.
     
  8. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They aren't resting, that's for sure. They're having friendlies. Not at the same intensity that a regular season/play offs will offer but they aren't sitting around waiting for the CCC final. Does it help or hurt? Don't know. But 3 weeks isn't that long if you stay active.
     
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  9. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    @Salmos is our Pachuca guy, id say it helps as they get a much needed break and let some of their guys rest.
     
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  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe Leon had a similar rest last year, and they won.

    The biggest advantage is the game is at home, at altitude.
     
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  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Crew will be travelling to Pachuca on Thursday, May 30.
     
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  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the 27th CONCACAF Champions Cup/League tournament MLS teams have entered. The previous 26 winners by country:

    Mexico: 21
    USA: 3
    Costa Rica: 2

    54 Finalists by nation:

    Mexico: 38
    USA: 8
    Costa Rica: 5
    Canada: 2
    Honduras: 1
     
  13. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We’re number 2! We’re number 2!
     
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  14. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    In the all-time winners list, the USA can leave El Salvador behind with a Columbus victory:
    Code:
    Countrywise list of winners
    
    Mexico                   38
    
    Costa Rica                6
    
    El Salvador               3
    USA                       3
    
    Guatemala                 2
    Haiti                     2
    Honduras                  2
    Surinam                   2
    Trinidad and Tobago       2
    
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But has Mexico ever come third in the World Cup?
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apologies. I screwed up my list, big time.

    Thanks for the correction.

    38: Mexico
    6: Costa Rica
    3: USA, El Salvador
    2: Honduras, Suriname, Haiti, Guatamala, T&T
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    As an anecdote, another Moroccan (Soufiane Rahimi) was absolutely key in delivering the Asian Champions League to Al Ain of the UAE. Beating Ronaldo's Al Nassr and Neymar's Al Hilal in the process - and scoring two against Yokohama F. Marinos last night:

     
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  18. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland


    Will the Crew logo make it on there?

    Columbus come into this match with three consecutive road wins. Montreal, Chicago and Orlando. Pachuca have been idle but did play a friendly against Atlético Morelia (second division) last night. They won 12:0.
     
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  19. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, 4 consecutive road wins. 3 in a row in league, plus the win at Monterrey.

    The last road match they didn't win was a heavily rotated 0-0 draw at RSL the match after the draw at Tigres, which was won in PKs.

    5-4-1 (WDL) on the road this year. The loss being a match they got an early red in Charlotte.
     
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  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That is certainly an impressive away record.
     
  21. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the final is next Saturday opposite an entire slate of league games?

    way to make it so the CCL final doesn’t feel like a big deal.
     
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  22. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it was supposed to be on Sunday, but it got moved to Sat because of Mexican elections taking place on the 2nd.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ?????

    you’re confusing leagues with national teams.
     
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  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The African Champions League was also decided last night:

     
  25. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland

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