2024-25 Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by xbhaskarx, Oct 22, 2024.

  1. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He might be interested in coming here because of il Bruce. If we could get him, that would be good.

    @xbhaskarx thanks for the X links. I have deactivated my account over there so I wouldn’t see these posts on my own. :thumbsup:

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
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  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    the Quakes are not quite Gladbach...
     
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #378 JazzyJ, Dec 6, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2024
    Vasquez is good but the guy I really wish the Quakes could snag is Leo Campana from Inter Miami. Miami is probably not going to want to give him up though, especially since Suarez is on his last legs, and getting more and more last legs all the time.

    In their MLS careers, Campana scores every 162 minutes, Vasquez every 218 minutes. Jebo every 228 minutes.
     
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  4. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At 26, this is probably about the.. last opportunity to get to Europe in his career. However, if he wants a chance at the WC in 2026, he will need to be playing, not sitting on the bench somewhere. So, it will be a fine balance.
     
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  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #380 xbhaskarx, Dec 6, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2024
    Given he's like third string at Monterey I'm pretty sure the top Euro leagues are out as an option. The point is Cincy chose to not sell him to Gladbach because they were trying to win a trophy (which they did)... now instead of Gladbach he could be going (via a short stay in Mexico) from the Supporters Shield winners to the wooden spoon winners lol

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  6. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is going to be a recruiting problem for us, and has been for the last several years. Until we start winning and show that we want to win, we're going to continue to shop in the bargain bin and for guys on the bubble. What champion would want to come here? (There actually, because I'm not in San José.)

    We have to show serious improvement this season and we have to look like we have a commitment to win, from the owner down to the equipment guys. Otherwise, it's going to even harder next year and the years after.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
  7. Replikait

    Replikait Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vasquez would be huge
     
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  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah and not sure how much Il Bruce helps us with recruiting. I'd think somewhat - a proven winner, though I don't think he has any sway over the USMNT at this point.
     
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  9. Replikait

    Replikait Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    He always will to an extent. Its still the good ol boy network.
     
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  10. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
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    Why? Because Hercules Nomez says it's a step down?

    Who wouldn't want to live in San Jose after living in Cincinnati and Monterrey? And, yeah, the Quakes were last place -- last year -- but they have the winningest coach in MLS history at the helm now. Not like Vazquez is Lionel Messi, anyway. He should be so fortunate to grace our bench.
     
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  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Herculez Gomez has been condescending about the Quakes for quite a while, starting with the “see you in Houston” comment after the USOC game in 2004 or 2005, and continuing with disparaging remarks as a “pundit”.
     
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  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    Good for him he’s one of the all time greats. Otherwise I might be condescending in return. :)
     
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  13. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players always want to play for successful teams. First, it's way more fun. Second, you get paid for championships, and making deep runs into the playoffs. Third, if you aspire to move up to a more prestigious league, it's easier to take that step from a winner. Fourth, it's easier to achieve your personal bonuses if the team around you is good.

    Having Bruce should be a help in recruiting. And while he may not have any direction connections to the Men's Nats, I'd be willing to bet that there's a good chance the Nats coaches will listen to him. Or at least players might rationally believe so.

    The thing that will help us the most in recruiting good players is a winning record and a willingness to pay the freight for those players. We have shown neither of those things in recent times.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I’ve always felt that I wanted the kinds of players who didn’t think we’d be a losing side if we signed them.
     
  15. bostero24

    bostero24 Member

    Jun 27, 2008
    sf
    What else can we expect from an ex galaxy and sounders..
     
  16. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Definitely agree we need a finisher, but I'd rather see Hernan way up high either wide or central...really going after defenders..he is one of our best finishers, he's classy around the box. I'm in the minority, but for me he isn't all that as a creator, especially on our side of the midline.

    I know after the absolute dearth of anybody remotely resembling a true 10 in SJ, we should be grateful, but when I think of a creator, I prefer a guy who's head is always up and passes first instead of the head down dribble first and then pass...hoping to get enough separation from his defender. What I saw from Hernan last season was some insane moments of skill and finishing and equal or more moments of complete boneheaded turnovers in bad spots of the field...decision making well below his technical skillset. I think Ian had a comment about this after a series of games where he was losing the ball a lot...something to the effect of I'd rather he got himself higher up field, instead of trying to beat the entire team from his own 35 yard line. Puig to me is a stone cold 10...he can drop a dime on someone or beat someone by dribbling, but he always makes the right read and quick decision and advances the attack nearly 100% of the time... you never see him getting stripped of the ball trying to do too much into pressure defense...that is Hernan's achilles heal...Hernan has a different style, the legato drag back style...he puts his head down and wants to turn a guy inside out...not a creator style that advances the attack at a high enough rate of consistency...and really dangerous for turnover/counters.

    Imo, we greatly overspent for Hernan for that 10 role, but He could light it up if played as a pure attacker. I'm waiting to see how Bruce sees his role...and what he will do if he sees too many dribbling induced turnovers... gotta gut feeling he'll play him higher or in a free role to create havoc in the attacking third i think Bruce realizes Espinoza and Lopez are his only danger men...he'll find a way to get them closer to goal...the other thing to consider is if we can actually bring in 1-2 more truly savvy players for hernan and Espinoza to play with...so teams can't simply double or triple Espinoza and Hernan...we'll see if Arena can squeeze Fish for a couple more bonafide quality players...a true 9 and for me a sharper better decision making 10. I don't see that coming this next season though...maybe a 9...I'm really curious to see how things play out for the Bruce/Hernan chemistry and how Bruce feels about Hernan soaking up a big portion of his roster budget.
     
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  17. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Re: Vasquez...imo, he wants a club that pretty much guarantees him major minutes...that's not Europe...but would be the Quakes...it's all about playing time.
     
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  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, but he'd have to beat out Preston Judd :)
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vazquez to the Quakes talk is about 40-45 minutes in...

    Tom Bogert says
    - Quakes are interested in Vazquez
    - Monterrey are not looking to move him, he would cost around what they paid so ~$8 million
    - Obviously Vazquez would take up a DP slot and the Quakes are currently using all three, so Gruezo would be leaving if he can't be bought down (Bogert didn't know but I don't think he can be)
    - Kaye and Harkes were brought in to replace Gruezo
    - Other MLS teams are also interested in buying Vazquez



    The good news is it sounds like Gruezo will be gone, after that not sure if a better option is buying Vazquez (that's a lot of money for a guy who had one good season) or getting some other young attacker from down in South America, but personally I'd go with the latter because for that kind of money the Quakes can get the next Gabriel Pec or Cucho Hernandez!!
     
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  20. davez

    davez Member+

    Aug 10, 2000
    Mountain View, CA
    My dog could beat out Preston Judd, and the ball is taller than she is. What a colossal mistake resigning him was/is.
     
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  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah $8M seems like a lot and we might be able to do better elsewhere.
     
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  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #397 JazzyJ, Dec 7, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2024
    The Quakes are usually pretty tight-lipped about interest in players. I wonder if someone said - "Go ahead and leak it, we need to do something to try to sell season tickets."
     
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  23. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    Judging by our regulars here, I believe we're down to you, @don gagliardi, @SeaJayBee, @SalinasQuakesFan, @Seismothusiast and @Earthshaker...so six STH's whereas we used to have a bunch more. So, it wouldn't surprise me. Most people tapped out (on season tickets) for various reasons, years ago, but mostly because we don't have a serious team.

    I'd prefer that Fisher had to earn that kind of loyalty by actually trying to compete in MLS.
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I'm sure that there are new people getting season tickets all the time, and it's not just like a pure degradation of some static set from 5 years ago or something. Shawlee said they had their best new season tickets holders year ever last year (2023), or something to that effect. But it's a hard sell this season for sure, after that terrible season where we hardly even won or tied any home games.
     
  25. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    It has to be one of the toughest jobs (selling Quakes season tickets), and not just because last year was one of the worst performances by any MLS team ever, but the cumulative effect of so many poor seasons for what seems like an eternity.

    Shawlee would have to back that up with some actual data for me to believe it. My guess is we have less than a few hundred, at best. We will never know, of course, these numbers are kept secret, but it can't be good. Just look around the stadium on gameday, attendance is dwindling every year.

    Quakes need to get in the game. Just once I'd like to see us ready to go with a competitive roster on opening day.
     
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