Agree those places have fewer excuses but you could say the same thing about Maryland... with nearby UVA, Penn State, Rutgers consistently good and frequently with good in-state players. Ohio State is another one that should be killing it. Illinois? Other States like WV and Delaware not as much advantage. WVU famously in the Final 4 once with those Canadian NT players. Someone did a State by State analysis of committed recruits once (saw it here on BS) and it was interesting to see who is really exporting kids, like TX and CA, and how some smaller (or soccer smaller) States/State schools have to really get creative with out of state kids or internationals. Not sure you can compete at the highest NCAA level with lots of Internationals. Nothing like on the mens side. Facilities and weather and dorms and food and just quality of life is a bigger deal to kids these days, imho. Now they get clothes and cars! For another thread perhaps.
UPENN at a nice 0-5-3. Talk about someone who values Camp $ over success now that she’s at an IVY. Totally understand that IVY schools have challenges, but come on. 0-5-3… that’s ridiculous. She should focus more on her current players and getting results. I’m sure she had to grind when she was at Monmouth, so I totally understand trying to maximize your camps now that you’re at an Ivy…. But $225 for a 3hr ID Camp is wild. also, i Delaware is only in year 2, but I'm willing to wager a lot of $ that she doesn’t have any success there.
oooooooo, people on here won't like this. You're criticizing 2 female head coaches. San Francisco removed the interim tag.
This comment isn't about any particular hot seat but I often wonder why some coaches don't make more of an effort to turn down the heat on the seats that they are occupying by doing better squad rotation. What do I mean by that and what am I referring to? I often wonder why coaches of programs who will ONLY reach the NCAA tournament if they win their conference tournament are using shortened benches in non-conference games that are essentially exhibition games. Take for instance teams in the Northeast Conference, arguably the weakest DI conference in women's soccer. There are 11 teams in the conference and they have collectively won as many games (7) as Auburn & Utah State University, who are both undefeated at 7-0-0. I know it sounds like a D3 mentality but I think players are generally happier when they're playing versus not playing, so why only use 15-16 players in a game instead of giving everyone an opportunity to play. (Let's be honest here, I bet TCNJ could win the NEC.) Using more players during these meaningless non-conference matches also gives coaches more of an opportunity to assess players prior to their all-important conference matches and would reduce the wear and tear on the players that a coach WILL need to rely on in those conference matches. Anyway, just a thought.
A few reasons why this happens even though there may be 2-3 games a week in preseason: coaches may have sweeteners when recruiting to win commitments telling players they will play day 1. Some coaches may also allow a handful of players max minutes to hopefully get player of the week accolades for their own bio. And lastly, coaches may be scared the better talent would transfer out if not getting max minutes. But I agree, makes no sense chasing preseason games and your starters have no legs to finish the regular season. Especially those mid majors rosters where the talent may be even across the board.
Rosters don’t see much rotation because mid-majors (and even some lower level majors) aren’t deep enough to rotate. That simple. Players aren’t ready. Coaches may not coach. Why lost 6-0 when you can lose 3-0 with your strongest team? The coach knows half the recruiting class will leave anyway, because that’s what happens.
Just a note: Although the Northeast is arguably, maybe even probably, the second weakest DI conference, the Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) is the weakest by a big margin,
Bakersfield is crazy. Got a roster of 40 kids, rebranded as the NEW bakersfield on social media. Why do they always rebrand as NEW, old Bakersfield squad wasnt even bad.
I was waiting for you to set them straight about the SWAC. I didn't realize until the other day that Alcorn State has actually canceled all their games so far due to not enough available players (I think that is the reason). Wrong thread obviously, but I wonder if they will play any games this season.
I don't think Bakersfield is hot. I think it's a tough job. You ask 90% of the kids in the greater LA area whether they want to go to Irvine, Riverside, Bakersfield, Long Beach, Fullerton, UC San Diego etc. Bakersfield will come in dead last. Out of their losses I don't see a game that they probably should win and it's his second year right? I just don't see it. They had an outside chance of being ok in the old WAC. I think it's just tough sledding for anybody to be successful there and they won't make a change in year 2.
OK, I get that. I guess I still look at things from the development perspective, which is the wrong thing to do in college coaching. I just think that when you compete in a conference that is only ever going to get one spot in the NCAA tournament that you should treat all non-conference matches as pre-season games. Thanks for the correction @cpthomas on the weakest DI conference. Duly noted.
Interesting take on things. Maybe do one even better. Just play in your own conference since the other games don't really matter. You lower mid majors just stay in your lane!!!! Less losses on a coaches overall record.
NC State lose again. The real question is why did Santoro replace his staff when they were seemingly doing so well? It's only gone downhill since and they have an angry Stanford team ahead....
Desperate measures. Staffs that were completely gutted: Maryland, Arizona, NC State. That to me is a very loud message. HC’s changing assistants to buy time and not be the ones to be let go.
Tough look hating on a program that is 6-2-1 (1-1) so far this year. Quick Google search of your boy Amato remains unflattering, in case you forgot about what kind of culture he was building at UF...
As early as recruiting is two years out, the current roster was assembled with the previous staff and not this one. Maybe that's why? Maybe he saw this coming? If he can rebuild a lifetime doormat then a few off seasons is nothing to get back on track. Too much objective proof from 2016-22 to doubt at this moment. Let's see.
Yet sadly this program still exists in Amato’s shadow. Firing assistant coaches to save your skin as head coach is pretty desperate also.
Why don’t we wait till conference play unfolds and see what the record truly will be? Mind you, in a weaker conference than they previously were in. That’s really where you need to access any development or lack of in a program. No hate towards Arizona at all, just stating the facts of a full staff change and the perception it gives of the Head Coach/Programs that went that route.
Mizzou is getting absolutely exposed this year. They look terrible. They have zero quality. 2021: 7-10 2022: 5-8-4 2023: 5-9-3 2024: 2-6-1
Checked up on the interims, compared points per game through 9/22. These teams are doing "better" than 2023... Niagara Loyola Chicago San Francisco* North Carolina and these teams are doing "worse"... UC Riverside Oregon State Miss Valley St * San Francisco has already removed the interim tag, making Pinder Nijjar permanent. https://usfdons.com/news/2024/9/17/...m-womens-soccer-head-coach-pinder-nijjar.aspx