2024-25 England Referee Thread [EPL/EFL/Cups+][Rs]

Discussion in 'Referee' started by MassachusettsRef, Jul 25, 2024.

  1. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Utterly stupid article written by a stupid hack who knows absolutely nothing and could scarcely be further away from reality if he tried.
     
  2. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Dude may have to move to Norway to ref for a few years…
     
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  3. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Tell us how you really feel!
     
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  4. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, alright then. I will concede you know this in much more detail than I do but I didn't think this seemed completely ridiculous. People who are exposed to constant abuse often become like their abusers. Perhaps this isn't the case here but I think it's a very real risk in general.
     
  5. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Greater Pittsburgh
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anything else you want to disclose, Carnac the Magnificent?
     
  6. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Nothing against you @SouthRef for quoting the post (sorry if it came across that way), I’m just fed up of media midwits casting their ‘expertise’ over this and other issues where they simply don’t have a clue. These idiots will be made to feel very stupid in the coming days.
     
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  7. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, the day after? I mean, who amongst us...?

    In all seriousness, the location, timing and venue is going to potentially make this a problem for a lot of others. Maybe no one else is guilty or culpable, so to speak. But tough questions are going to be asked of some high-profile individuals now and I cannot imagine this investigation is going to be fun. The knock-on effects behind the scenes at PGMOL and within UEFA should not be dismissed.
     
  9. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Absolutely flabbergasted at how self-induced this collapse is, especially if this latest video is what it is claimed to be. How many layers of idiocy do you need to pass through to not just do cocaine, to not just do it in a UEFA Hotel at a EURO tournament(!), to not just film yourself(!!!) doing it, but then to send that to anyone??? It’s so stupid to an almost frustrating degree.
     
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  10. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have quickly transitioned from the important question being whether or not Coote engaged in such behavior more than once to how/if it is possible no one else of relevance knew... or participated.
     
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  11. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    Coote: “See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden snort a line of cocaine at my work event and film myself doing it, talk shit about my coworkers and employers, then distribute that video to my friends like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.

    ...Yeah, I remember snorting a line of cocaine at my work event and filming myself doing it, talking shit about my coworkers and employers, then distributing that video to my friends”
     
  12. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #537 code1390, Nov 14, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2024
    Worst timing for an international break ever for Coote.
     
  13. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    That envelope should have stayed in the mayonnaise jar on Funk & Wagnalls' porch! :coffee:
     
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  14. Thegreatwar

    Thegreatwar Member

    Seacoast United
    May 28, 2015
    New Hampshire
    Too young to know what this was, so I googled it. Sounds hilarious. Gonna look for clips on YouTube.
     
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  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go Yank go:

    Aston Villa- Crystal Palace
    Referee: Tim Robinson.
    Assistants: Tim Wood, Steve Meredith.
    Fourth official: Tony Harrington.

    VAR: Alex Chilowicz.

    Assistant VAR: Lee Betts.
     
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  16. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ndidi on Palmer was clear red in first half at Leicester but of course it’s not given.
     
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  17. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #542 RefIADad, Nov 23, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2024
    I’m spinning the Dale Johnson Bag o’ Excuses wheel and I’m coming up with “not enough force”……

    (Note sarcasm-this is a nailed on red pretty much anywhere except England)
     
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  18. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All it’s going to take is for a guy like Palmer to miss 8 months with an injury and then have his career never be the same. Small price, right?
     
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  19. Sian

    Sian Member

    Dec 4, 2011
    Meanwhile ... Brentford Red? ... might be my bias talking but while strict letter-of-the-law, it's probably a red, I'd say it should be negated it being a loose ball and Pickford making more of an effort of getting hit, than getting the ball
     
  20. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first time I saw a play where I thought in a manner like you are was all the way back in 2018 or so. DeBruyne was nailed mid shin from the inside of his leg against Crystal Palace. Probably should have broken his leg, but only a caution showed, I said the same thing as you did. Six years later, here we are.

    The powers that be don’t want this to change. I don’t even think a severe injury to someone like Palmer will change it.
     
  21. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    If it happens to the England captain in a World Cup year they’d ban all contact faster than you can say “PGMOL.”
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey guys, remind me of the current state of the rule. In the Southampton vs. Liverpool match, ref awarded a penalty when the ball hit the Sot'on defender's chest first and then his arm. So hitting the chest first doesn't matter anymore (maybe never did?) or is it just one factor and the ref still decides if the arm was in a "natural" position?
     
  23. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    if in the opinion of the referee the handling was deliberate or an unnatural position, it is an offense. There is no “get out of jail free card” for it first playing the chest. But the play off the chest can be a factor in evaluation whether the position was unnnatural or the action was deliberate.
     
  24. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Surely Sugawara can have nothing to complain about... arm way out to the side as he's flying by. Don't know if it's deliberate, but certainly unnatural position and making silhouette much bigger. Can't do that.
     
  25. mfw13

    mfw13 Member+

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    And that's the problem with the current interpretation of the handball law....simply having your arms in a position that makes your body bigger is considered to be "deliberate intent", when in most cases it's anything but.

    Sugawara certainly did not "intentionally" handle the ball by any common sense definition of the word "intent"....but the ball hit his arm when it was away from his body, so of course it's an offense.
     

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