FOX Soccer 4m · HAITI IS HEADING TO AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND Haiti defeats Chile 2-1 to book its ticket to the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup!
Haitian Americans on the Haitian women's national football team Haiti Started: Claire Constant Bench: Lara-Sofia Larco Chelsea Surpris Danielle Etienne Milan Pierre-Jerome Noa Ganthier
It's interesting that Haiti didn't rely on US-raised talent much in this tourney, compared to, say, Jamaica or Mexico.
How many are from France or other French speaking nations? Don't they have strong ties to the global Francophone community particularly in Europe?
About 12 of the current roster are based in France, but I think almost all of them were born & raised in Haiti. Obviously, playing in France has helped a number of players, but I don't think the women's team has recruited from there at nearly the same level as the men have. At least one of the players was part of FC Indiana, which was essentially the Haitian WNT playing in the US as a club league. They even had a season in the WPSL-Elite, the bridge league between the WPS and NWSL. They finished bottom of the league as an amateur squad, but laid the foundation for what they have become now.
Yeah, proximity to the USA really has nothing to do with C'CAF's growth - if you even want to call it growth. The USA has always been there and always been strong, so that hasn't changed, yet here we have Haiti showing up (relatively speaking - aside from impressing against the US in qualifying, I wouldn't say they've had a signature win yet). For Haiti at least, it's the French connection helping at the moment - several of their current NT starters also are starters on the respective L1F teams. Aside from the regularity of USA+CAN, no other C'CAF team has ever really made waves on the global scene. The two teams best positioned to do so in the past - MEX and CRC - have instead seemed to have regressed recently, and while JAM is now on a two-WWC-qualifying streak, they got absolutely creamed in the 2019 group stage and haven't yet had a signature win either. =edit= What I will add, with HAI+PAN currently with three combined wins in the play-offs and potentially a fourth coming - is that one thing this playoff series was set up t do was really start comparing where each confederation's "second tier" of teams is versus other confeds, which was something that has been sorely lacking to this point. It could very well be that C'CAF happens to have some upper hand at this tier of global WoSo, but what that benefit might be is almost impossible to say without more info. (And whatever that benefit is, until the second tier starts challenging the first tier with some regularity, it's not going to have much effect on overall growth.)
This is the result of the work done by the Haïtian federation over the years. Most of the players started their careers with domestic clubs
I would say the US + Canada provide a solid floor for the Concacaf region. The various nations draw from the 2 countries for players or send their top athletes to US colleges or clubs. But investment/organizational will in these countries play a huge part in their ability to advance or sometimes even stay above water. We see plenty of examples of financial malfeasance or organizational apathy and that's just on the men's side, which usually gets the first bite at the apple. The women are often an afterthought.
And sometimes worse than an afterthought... actual victims: As much as we should revel in Haiti’s World Cup joy, a reminder of the horrific abuse around the nation and the very recent failings of CAS Haiti: FIFA Failing Sex Abuse Survivors https://t.co/qprVcV8RdS— Sophie Lawson (@lawson_sv) February 22, 2023
Even though Cameroon made it to the last 16 in the last two world cups, there is a good reason why Portugal are heavy favourites. Reason: tough uefa qualification system
Haiti WNT has shown it's raising quality during the 2022 Concacaf Cup. Chile's team on the other hand has declined over the last couple of years. Their golden years ended in 2019-2020. Generational change was not introduced in time for the new cycle (the covid outbreak may have influenced this). The Chilean federation decided to bet once again on an old winning horse only this time it turned out that this horse was already seriously too old - with 7 players on the roster over the age of 32. There's a reason why half of Haiti's roster play in strong French D1, while their Chilean rivals failed to keep their places in Spanish Primera Division clubs and mostly had to return to their home league. Congrats to Haiti - in the battle: youth vs. experience - the vibrant youth came on top this time.
Maybe uefa should just get 12 spots next world cup playoffs and play no part in the playoff tournament. Maybe 8 teams fight for 2 places.
“Lo dejamos todo en la cancha, pero no teníamos más recursos. Se dijo hace tiempo y no se escuchó” declaró Tiane Endler.Hace tiempo que venimos pidiendo un cambio en la dirección, pero las autoridades del fútbol chileno han decidido continuar con un proceso que no da. pic.twitter.com/SbkbgIuZ4j— Carla Andrade (@carlandradeo) February 22, 2023 “We left everything on the field, but we had no more resources. It has been said for a long time and has not been heard” We have been asking for a change in management for a long time, but the Chilean soccer authorities have decided to continue with a process that does not work.
89' Nchout scores! POR 1 - 1 CMR 93' Costa scores from PK, POR 2 - 1 CMR (Cameroon very unlucky as ball hit Johnson's arm on her sliding tackle) FT Portugal 2 - 1 Cameroon
Sooo glad Haiti qualified About the 11 players starter today, 5 play in french D1, 4 play in french D2 !!! And all the 9 are starter in their own clubs... Nerilla Mondésir : D1 Montpellier 6 goals Melchie Dumornay : D1 Reims 5 goals (and one of (or the) best U20 world player...) Batcheba Louis : D1 Fleury 5 goals Kethna Louis : D1 Reims 2 goals Roselord Borgella : D1 Dijon 2 goals Sherly Jeudy : D2 Grenoble 3 goals Jennyfer Limage : D2 grenoble 1 goals Tabita Joseph : D2 Brest Betina Petit-Frère : D2 Brest I am not very surprised about their success (i was expecting that ), the D1 french championship is probably far stronger than the chilean championship. In the other hand, the french division 2 is pretty well competitive because of the next rebuild of this championship : Today 24 teams in 2 groups, next year, only 12 teams in 1 group so 12 teams will be relegated in the future D3 league. The clubs have to fight harshly, trying at least to stay in D2... Haiti - France connection (of course a little bit sad for Tiane Endler)
Watched it at work did not get much done hahaha Wow those last minutes had my heart in my mouth I think it was a deserved win for Portugal they created lots of opportunities but our front 2 Jessica and Diana did not have their shooting boots on today plus 3 shots off the cross bar and post, and the little Norton with the long range thunderbolt that came of the crossbar. Congrats to our ladies for making it to their 1st World Cup and to the past teams who put in the ground work and mr Neto who is proving to be a great coach and the FA for sticking and believing in him all these years.
Yes but some of them arrived rather early In France (and some have been playing here for many years ) : Mondésir (currently 24) was 17 when she started her carrer at Montepellier, Dumornay (19) was barely 18, Tabita Joseph ( 19) was 18; Betina Petit Frere (19) was 18, Sherly Jeudy (24) was 19. And B.Louis (25) was 20, K.Louis (26) was 21
Haiti's success comes entirely down to their Fed putting a tiny bit of time, money and effort into their women's program. Unfortunately, outside of Europe, that is still all it takes...a tiny amount of investment, sustained over roughly 10 years. Let's just take a look at two other former French colonies: Benin and Togo have basically the same populations and similar economic situations as Haiti. They both have significant diasporas in France and they could both theoretically send 18-19 year old girls to develop in the French league system. As far as I know, there are no notable Benin-born or Togo-born women playing in the French league system. Furthermore, the national teams for those two countries are both very bad, even by African standards. Why?... because their national Federations have never made a serious effort to develop female talent. The Haitian Fed has problems. There was the weird predator stuff a previous poster linked. There are funding issues, gender inequities, etc. However, Haiti made a choice to develop a centralized academy system for their girls players. The Haitian Fed put real coaches in that system. They mobilized foreign volunteers and donors, and they funneled (a tiny amount of) their own money into that system. You can see this approach working in other countries too. This is the North Korean approach, and is arguably how South Korea became good as well (although South Korea has since developed a small but serious senior league, something Haiti will never have). This is basically what Equatorial Guinea did for the 1.5 cycles they were relevant (they also recruited foreign born players). This is what Morocco is doing now as well (although they massively benefit from foreign born players). Perhaps the most notable thing about the Haitian women's team is how little it benefits from the diaspora. They started just one foreign born player in the most important game of their program's history. They certainly use fewer foreign born players than Jamaica or even Mexico have historically done. Panama is another team that improved largely as a result of domestic growth, although I am less familiar with what role the Panamanian fed played in their development. Riley Tanner is the first foreign-born woman that I am aware of doing anything significant for Panama.
Not in the same way that you see on the men's side with North African countries. I don't think any of these players were born in France. Haiti became independent in 1804, so there isn't the same level of migration. A lot play in France, but it may be more for language than anything else.