2023/27 Ayase Ueda | 2025/ Tsuyoshi Watanabe @ Feyenoord (NED)

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  1. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Yes indeed :).
     
  2. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Scored a brace in 2 minutes + scored another one earlier but was canceled by VAR. Totally back on the track. Looks like he want to catch up his goaless games with double figures ^^.

    Anyone knows why Watanabe is out ?
     
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  3. Injured.
    We now have 6 injured Central defenders. In this match we had to use two midfielders as central defenders, which showed.
     
  4. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    What kind of injury?
     
  5. Iirc he was hit on the foot in the match against NAC Breda.
     
  6. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Again no Ueda to take the penalty ? Why that ?
     
  7. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member+

    AC Milan
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Back to the quiet Ueda again, it seems :p
     
  8. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hehe. Bad rating also. Well, he has a good season no doubt. But we have to face facts here.
    Ueda got 0 goals against the top 5 teams in the league. Its important to notice.
     
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  9. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Important question is if Ueda is guilty or the whole Feyenoord Team, cause they also lacked quality overall against the top 5 teams ?

    Maybe it's cause Ueda struggles against them but I guess he would score more often in a team with more team chemisty, like they were last season when he scored against Bayern or for Japan when he scored against Brazil.
     
  10. Nope, it's just the explosion of injuries since match 8.
    We were running rampant over the teams in those first 8 matches unbeaten.
    Than we in a very short time lost our whole defense AND our strongest midfield setting.
    So we went in the UEFA competitions and the league with a team that at a given moment had 12/13 injured.
    We fokking had to field two midfielders as central defenders two weeks ago, because our 6!!! central defenders were out! We lost to injury our rightback who's in the picture with among others Bayern and then we had his replacement come in, get injured, recover and now is out for the rest of the season, which means we play a talent, but very unexperienced Lotomba etc.
    The problem with that tsunami of injuries we had to play too soon too long the ones who came back, which then caused nagging problems.
    So we for about 20 matches have been playing with constant changing formations with players often in positions they arenot used to and yet they expect a team with fluent combinations overpowering the opponent. Yeah, right.:rolleyes:.
    And then dumbo supporters start cursing and want van Persie out, because these mindless imbecils think other coaches will play better with this sick bay selection.
     
  11. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Of course the whole team had been shaky. For most part of the season. But he should have managed to score . This worries me ahead of the WC.
     
  12. Uhm, Ajax had angst when Feyenoord had the ball, so Ueda faced a crowded box and Feyenoord had no opportunities to play penetrating attacks that would take advantage of Ueda's skills. Ajax was kind of parking the bus after the lucky punch 0-1, which was their 2nd shot at the goal.
    Dunno how Ueda is being portrayed as quiet and bad rated.
    He was a menace, being fouled without the bad ref not giving free kicks.
    My brother in law and I said during the match, we're going to have a hard time with him in the attack in the WC2026.
    I find it quite amazing how Ueda is being looked at in here.
     
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  13. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Being realistic and discussing players flaws and bad form etc aint the same thing as thinking he sucks.
    You cant always defend him. Facts is facts
     
  14. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Well even if he's an underdog killer he will be useful at the WC against sides like Tunisia. An underdog killer would have been useful in 22 vs Costa Rica (Ueda played that match too).
     
  15. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Sorry I don't want to talk bad about Feyenoord, that was not my intention. That was + - what I meant with team chemisty, the injuries and the problems of form coming along with that :).
     
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  16. Wasnot taken that way or aimed at you.
    Just wanted to explain how things turned bad and how fans are delusional in their reactions.
     
  17. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    When any teams top striker does not score for 10 + games I think its normal for people to have reactions.
     
  18. Mwah, Robin van Persie had such spells, Ruud van Nistelrooij too, Roy Makaay..to mention Dutch worldclas strikers.
    Ruud had a very nice theory about it, the ketchup theory.
    He stated strikers sometimes get in a situation you can compare to ketchup in a bottle not wanting to get out of it (sounds familiar).
    So you shake it and all of a sudden it blobs out.
    Similar to strikers, sometimes the goals get stuck, but then all of a sudden, like that stuck ketchup, the goals blob out again.
    In other words, it's nothing special, it happens to the best.
     
  19. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Lets agree to disagree
     
  20. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    See it like that also. Or course it's normal that you could complain after 10 games yeah. But it will happen to many players also.
     
  21. People forget that Giménez with AZ striker Pavlidez were running wild scoring goals.
    Long ago we had a legendary Dutch striker, Koen Dillens, who scored an insane amount of goals. It's referred to as the "Koen Dillens index".
    Whenever strikers score alot, their scores are plotted in relation to that "index", so that one can track if the striker outpaces/keeps up with the run of the scores Koen had.
    At a given moment the "Koen Dillen" fever hit, because bot Gimenez and Pavlides outscored the Koen Dillen Index, so everybody got speculating how much they would score ... And then the run stuttered and stopped. Both had a series of matches without scoring and they never gor close to Dillen's total.
    It's just another, very recent example of that very normal phenomenon and it happened to both strikers in the same season, while they were chasing each other.
     
  22. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Another bad game for them and Ueda against a bottom placed team.
     

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