2023-24 Roster Movement Thread

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by Buzz Killington, Nov 29, 2023.

  1. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Friday is forever away. I mean, only three hours here, but there? practically forever
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The way it was worded was that he'd "hoped" he'd get time in the cash grab. My understanding is a signing is still coming.

    And you've been around long enough to know SKC is notoriously tight-lipped on signings and rumors regularly don't come out.
     
  3. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What I don't understand is how nothing comes out on the otehr end, the selling clubs, the target players. I get that PV wants, above all else, to kill any possible joy fans might find in following the club.
     
  4. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
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    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who's to say it hasn't and it's just not been found? I'm not saying it actually is out there, but more than once after a signing that felt like it came out of the blue from a foreign country I've found reports linking the player with the move. I do a lot of checking on Twitter, but that's not to say it's not somewhere else. It could also be that the player is that unimpressive that it doesn't inspire being written about.
     
  5. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know, I know. Just getting antsy.

    I remain amazed at how little leaking occurs with SKC.
     
  6. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I honestly am as well, seems like unless Mike Illig talks to Twelllman (the rumored source for how Twellman got Thommy’s name before he signed) nothing comes out until the team tops the Star off.
    And trust me I’m as antsy as you even though we both know there wasn’t likely to be more than the one signing.
     
  7. Kooth

    Kooth Member

    Sporting KC
    Mar 11, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not as plugged into SKC as some here are but I see no announcement of this other than his listing on the roster page of the team website. Where is the official announcement of this? Seriously underwhelming if true. No offense to Mr. Cruz who I am sure is a wonderful person and player.
    Don't have too much of a problem with SKC being tight lipped somewhat with trades and transfers but I do think that some leaking to generate buzz is not a bad thing.
     
  8. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
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    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a full signing, it's a short term signing just for the game tonight.
     
  9. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was an attempt at sarcasm.....

    We've been told a signing was immanent (several times now). Hence my refences to announcements about pending announcements.

    We've been told the player would be available to help with GCGC.

    Cruz, an SKC II player, is a short term signing brought in specifically to help with the GCGC due to thin roster.

    Sarcasm and the internets.......

    Should anyone second the motion, I plan to start referring to the GCGC as the GC squared, or GC^2. Not trademarked yet.
     
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  10. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm for that, but that ^, is that what it means, squared, or times? Thanks. I learned something today
     
  11. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Also, wondering, why do we pay almost double the going rate for new players? I know, we say, because people don't want to come to KC. But RSL just signed Diogo Gonçalves for $3m, and his value is listed on TM as $6m.
    So, are people saying no to KC, but yes to Salt Lake?
    Same deal with Minnesota? Are people saying, nah, KC isn't cold enough for me?
    And on, and on.
    Or are we just really bad at this stuff.
    I guess we need to give Burns a chance. Maybe it was Bliss?
     
  12. Kooth

    Kooth Member

    Sporting KC
    Mar 11, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The sarcasm was not lost on me, I am just an old fart that is not as "plugged in" as many.
     
  13. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, in excel or on a TI calculator ^ is squared.
     
  14. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
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    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW if the name I've heard is right (no reason to believe it's not), whelmed to slightly disappointing is my response.
     
  15. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    who
     
  16. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
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    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without a second source I'm not willing to put it out there.
     
  17. kcfooty

    kcfooty Member

    Feb 16, 2011
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    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To the power of...indicates exponent, right? x^3 is x cubed
     
  18. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Even if this signing were a total banger, I'm not sure I'd have huge hopes for the rest of the season or the rebuild after.

    I'm gonna need some real convincing at this point. I mean at least four signings by the end of the next window that all strike me as above expectations. I'm generally easily pleased in that regard, so I guess I'm more nervous about quantity than anything.
     
  19. drhoades00

    drhoades00 Member

    Aug 13, 2010
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Well that is pretty much the best this club can do on literally anything lately it seems.
     
  20. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct. I shortened the GCGC to GC^2 or GC squared. Still waiting for that to take off.

    Math more interesting than SKC losing to CBUS.
     
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  21. SportingKCFan

    SportingKCFan Member

    Sep 2, 2010
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Math is love. Speaking of SKC losing to CBUS, I am usually a Rosero fan, but that was one atrocious defensive effort on the goal.
     
  22. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Two days left. I think it is gonna be hard to play a new signing in CG^2, but maybe St Louis would let us play the new guy in their next game? I mean, why not, as he will probably be mythical
     
  23. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I've seen people snarking about this but I can't find the quote and genuinely can't remember: when the ownership or Pete, whichever, stated that we'd be competitors within 3 transfer windows, were they intentionally starting to count after this summer window?

    Or is it just dire?

    Because one thing I'm not seeing a glimmer of at all is market value for the guys on the roster. If we wanted to make moves but have a tied-up roster, couldn't we try shipping off a player or two around the league to make room? We did some dealing in 2019, but to my basic research, we've only sold two players in the last five years: Zendejas in 2020 and Lindsey in 2022. Lindsey has put in some good minutes at Charlotte, but Zendejas (again, to my limited research) has never played another MLS minute. Included in the 2019 trade-aways we got money for was Rwatubyaye, who was never successful at this level.

    All that to say, I don't think the lack of wiggle room in our roster is really a fair reason we can't be seeing some signings. Even underwhelming players have market value. So to me this is Vermes still holding way too tight to his crew - or the league has wised up to the problems inherent through our ranks. Both are pretty damning.
     
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  24. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who's saying they haven't tried and have either over valued the talent they're willing to part with, or there's just no interest in the players that they're willing to part with?

    And the article was Sam's interview with Illig if I remember correctly.
     
  25. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If we're really tied up with this roster, it's just further evidence that we really have no idea how to build a 2024 roster in MLS. Other sides have much more talent already, and are adding players every window
     

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