Yeah, ok keyboard ninja. Definitely not here s***posting. Well, here's that attention you ordered and the L you didn't. Have a great day.
As you know, I never said St. Thomas coach should be on the hot seat. I only supported another blogger by stating it’s fair to ask whether the program would have been better served with a coach who has experience at more competitive levels in D1 or D2. We will never know, but I like that they are giving her a shot. And if the coach doesn’t do well, the cost to the program results in a setback, but not fatal. And again, the ‘axe to grind’ comment is thrown in there to devalue; it does not contribute to the argument.
Can we get back to discussing how the Arizona coach is on the hotseat and is undoing all of Amato’s hard work?
Now back on topic. I believe the majority here agrees to this list of hot seat coaches for 2023: 1. Temple 2. Rhode Island 3. Boston College 4. FIU 5. Miami 6. San Diego 7. Charleston 8. A&M Corpus Christi 9. Arizona 10. Colorado State Any others?
Maybe a few more to add on this list based on results. 11. Central Michigan? - 2022 (2-11-5) maybe not hot but getting warm with another bad season? 12. Eastern Michigan- 2022 (3-11-4), 2021 (2-13-3) 13. Detroit Mercy- 2022 (6-10-1), 2021 (3-13-2), 2020 (2-6-1), 2019 (2-13-2). 14. NDSU- putting them back on the list. 18-29-5 in the last three seasons. All losing seasons.
I find the inclusion of Temple to be an interesting one and to have it at the top of your list makes it even more surprising. (Unless, of course, this list isn't a ranked list.) I think in order for a coach to be on the hot seat for a losing record, or maybe for a lack of progress, that program needs to have a history of success in order for that seat to be hot. I just don't see that history of success at Temple. The last time they had a winning record was in 2015, surprisingly it was their second winning season in a row. Prior to those two years it was 2000. The program has been around since 1991 and during that time period they've only had six winning seasons. (Source: Temple Record Book) Given that track record, I would like to think that as long as the coach is meeting recruiting goals, they're active in the community and they have a good retention rate and graduation rate then they should be relatively. I'm not saying that it's acceptable to lose every game but I would have to think that qualifying for the American Athletic Conference playoffs would be considered a wildly successful season.
TU historically wins 5-7 games a year (with a couple excellent seasons in 2014-15). Current HC has had two seasons. Won 5 games in '21. Terrible '22. Maybe a year early for this list. Unsure about this one. Coach has had four seasons. Winning records in the first three. MAC tourney in '19 and '21. Obviously, '22 wasn't great. Is two bad seasons enough for it to get warm, especially in light of not even being allowed to say UCR might possibly start to get warm at a later date if things don't improve after three terrible seasons (9-36-10 overall, finishing last in conference in '19, '21, and '22). Everything is relative, of course. What's a reasonable expectation for C.Michigan?
People should really start citing conference record, conference finish, and conference tournament qualification and results in their logic for hot-seats… that’s usually what people are evaluated on much more than overall record, though obviously that’s a component. If you’re bottom in Conference year after year with better than bottom resources, your seat should be warm/hot.
No only trolls try to convince people to believe Arizona is on the hotseat. She took them from last place to fifth place with one recruiting class under her belt. Don't be an idiot. No one buys the bullshit and gaslighting on here about Arizona.
Correct, this list is not in any specific order. I only put Temple on the list because it was brought up by @SuperSoccer1978
You are right. I will be sure to start adding conference record and conference tournament results as well.
From my perspective, the St Thomas initial post was weird.The idea that a coach in the second year with a transitioned team should have a winning record be on the hot seat due to not having a winning year 2 record -- or, for that matter, in year 3 -- indicates a lack of understanding of how difficult it is to make the transition. And, of all the teams one might have picked, why St Thomas? It just is a very odd team to single out. In fact, if anything, based on their improvement in year 2 I would be watching them to see if the coach is going to turn out to be one of the very good ones.
Looking at their pre Division I records they were very good and had a lot of success. First couple seasons at Division I have been solid I don’t think that seat is remotely warm (unless someone knows something we all don’t). Heck with her record maybe she should have got the Ole Miss job.
Or in your case criticizing female coaches for being female, and accepting a job you don't approve of
I criticize lots of people on here regardless of their gender. I don’t blame them for accepting the jobs they get either I give my perspective that admins seem to hire females for positions that in my opinion a male would not get with the same qualifications.
Try a little harder to will this one into being. Look if they have a poor season this year and she is canned, I'll eat crow. But I hope you'll do the same if she continues to improve and maybe give her a freakin' break.
She’s been a head coach for 2 seasons and has already managed to finish rock bottom. All the success of the previous staff undone.
Bakersfield should be announced soon as Bernardo Silva Associate Head Coach at Sac State is the new Head Coach. Fantastic hire for Bakersfield and will do great things there.
ytrs said: ↑ No only trolls try to convince people to believe Arizona is on the hotseat. She took them from last place to fifth place with one recruiting class under her belt. Don't be an idiot. No one buys the bullshit and gaslighting on here about Arizona. Mounting evidence that @Collegewhispers is Amato, the former AZ coach and @ytrs is Moros, the current AZ coach! Everyone knows here that P5 coaches almost always get a 5 year deal, regardless of the expectations or how the portal has changed recruiting or whatever. Even if AZ wanted to fire Moros now, would they really want to pay her out? Pay 2 coaches at the same time for a year or 2 in women's soccer? Still kinda rare unless there's a player revolt. I mean who wants that job anyway at a place where you start sweating down into your shoes the second you walk out the door! How many schools are paying you still Amato? ...err I mean @Collegewhispers Your fixation on AZ and Moros/Ytrs is a little strange... The other rookie posters here are still not posting at a D1 level. Work a little harder, and don't suck...
I am not Moros (never met her either), but I think you might be spot on about CW. I had never thought of that. But it is the only thing that makes sense. Not only does CW attack Moros, he praises Amato continuously.