Can’t tell anything from the camera angle of those highlights but one of the angles shown at the time VAR was considering the incident showed that the Forest defender Yates was holding Foster. That’s what Foster was reacting to - in completely the wrong way, of course.
On Brentfords goal to make it 1-1 the VAR spent two minutes looking at the wrong pass (including drawing the lines which showed offside position) when in fact it was the next touch by a teammate that mattered where it was clearly onside.
That feels like a very non-England intervention for SFP. We've seen this justified as not clear how many times over the years? https://dubz.co/c/f19f1d
To be sure- gk foot firmly planted, high velocity high contact high risk of injury, but yellow seems expected for this in the pl since the contact wasn’t with the studs
Well theres confirmation of Romero not even getting a yellow for the handball which is so incredible I don't know where to start.
For those that watch both MLS and EPL, I don’t think we’ve ever had more evidence that the past six weeks or so to prove that SFP is subjective and varies referee to referee and match to match no matter how much instruction you give. The idea of clear and obvious on VC and SFP was always folly and I think the mask is just completely off now. It’s not just an EPL thing. 2017 me says I told you so.
Also, a lot of proof recently that this isn’t “technology.” Technology is only as good and as effective as the personnel. Again, both an EPL and MLS thing here.
One pass before the NEW goal at 21', didn't I see the ball come up and hit Gordon's unnaturally positioned hand?
Looked naturally placed to me. It's near his side and he kicked the ball into his own hand. I just don't see anything to say it's an offense even if it did immediately lead to a goal.
Two other incidents to discuss in Newcastle -Sheffield United.... 1) On Burn's goal, his shirt is very obviously being tugged by the defender, who is already on a YC. If he had not scored, does Atwell award a PK and 2CT on the field, or does that get sent down if he does not? 2) At 3-0, Gordon goes down in the box under a challenge from a Sheffield United defender. Atwell does not call it on the field. The replay shows that it is a very obvious PK, as the defender clearly catches him on the ankle. How does this not get sent down for an OFR?
I have no explanation for this other than VAR thinking "They're in total control and up 3-0. We don't need a PK here."
The rationale stated on the feed I was watching was that there was a defender close enough behind him to make it non-obvious that it would've been a certain goal.
I actually think there is an argument that a bouncing ball there possibly would go over the bar. It’s one of those where you have to be certain it’s going in the net and maybe there’s a chance it wasn’t? Now, with that said, Jones never looks at any angles to even really investigate this. So while I can come up with a good reason why (again, maybe) it isn’t red, I also don’t think for a moment that the officiating team here went with the good reason. I just think they missed or chose not to examine the misconduct aspect because it’s England and that would be crazy on a play like this.
The VAR in review is out, and, according to Dale, they actually reviewed a red card possibility, hence why it took so long to do this review. Full link to the review here: https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...thony-gordon-handballs-eddie-nketiah-red-card
Hold on. Is he saying the VAR looked at all these angles and determined that there wasn't a likely goal during the check and then didn't show any of those angles to the referee during the OFR? Also, I find it difficult to argue that Bissouma could stop a shot. As I said above, I find the argument that the ball simply might have bounded over the crossbar and not actually have been on frame far more plausible than the idea a defender would get across from near the post to stop that shot given where it was. But whatever, same result, I suppose. I still can't believe, if true, the VAR did all this himself and then only showed one angle to the referee.
What is a "small amount"? It was enough to take the man down. Explanations have to be better than that vagueness.
I felt like the angle from behind the goal made it pretty clear that this would have been a goal but for the handling. There's no way the player on the post would have stopped that shot. I think they get tricked by watching everything at such slow speeds instead of full speed
On Thursday, Michael Oliver will referee a game in the UAE between two of their biggest clubs. https://x.com/uaefa_ae/status/1706578124010303633