2022 World Cup Qatar: Round of 16 - Argentina vs. Australia

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by locoxriver, Dec 1, 2022.

  1. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina


    Extended highlights , before it gets deleted.

    At 2:36 you could see RDP running 40 yards, pressing 3 Australian players at once and force them into a mistake.
     
  2. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Watch 6:30 Palacios comes to intercept then inexplicably goes hands off as if he's worried to cause a penalty. Should have taken him out dont take chances. Tactical fouls are necessary
     
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  3. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    by the way looks like Scaloni was forced to take out Papu due to injury
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think our defenders held their own well, I don't see how we could put any of them at fault.

    In the last 20 minutes Australia, losing 2-0, went suicidal (rightly so), and they were bound to get some chances. They ended up getting the fluke goal and two other clear chances - one the nice run that Lisandro saved and then the save by Dibu at the end. During that same time, I think Argentina had at least eight clear chances, but couldn't convert. I'll take that ratio anytime.

    If you want to fault anybody, look at our forwards for not converting. And, I don't mean to pile on Lautaro, but he's the number one reason why we suffered until the 97th minute.
     
  5. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Also, most importantly, I think his leadership skills has improved. He's not perfect, but he's a much better leader now and you can tell how much the young lads in the team look up to him and listen to him when he speaks.

    From what I've seen quotes of other managers, Messi talk about tactics with coaches and maybe this might improved his decision making and playmaking.
     
  6. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Nothing against Papu, he did pretty well in first half.
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  7. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi goal against Australia was our first goal in this tournament that came from our traditional triangle passing game. We made Italy suffered with that in second half and I hope we could see that more often rather than having the backline to play the ball all the time.

    So many scary moments in this game due to backpassing. A strong side would have punished one or two misspassing in our own final third.

    It seems that Scaloni strategy in this tournament has always been playing conservatively until we get the first goal. We need to keep preasure and kill them game off.
     
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  8. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    By the way, I normally do not like blaming the ref for things but this Polish ref was god awful. Anytime the Aussies went down it was a whistle. Not to mention, when it was still 2-0, the Australia player should’ve received his second yellow on his foul on Lautaro.

    The referring and VAR had been awful. I just hope for our next match, we do not get that clown Sampaio for our match.
     
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  9. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  10. Christina99

    Christina99 Member+

    Sep 22, 2013
    Buenos Aires
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The main forum is the most UEFA biased CONMEBOL hater corner of the internet. They dont even rate Messi properly. They are anti futbol. Imagine hating the Argentina NT and ignoring Messi....they really have no idea.

    Even reddit understands more and praises our NT and goes crazy over Messi INCREDIBLE and MARADONIAN performance. Not this forum.


    Anyways, thank god for you guys and this subforum.
     
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  11. ganapordiego

    ganapordiego Member

    Estudiantes de La Plata
    Argentina
    Jul 10, 2021
    Reddit is worse is you look at enough threads. The one with the Uruguayan players complaining to the refs was pretty disgusting with lots of anti-Uruguayan and anti-Argentine sentiment. It’s been a while and I wasn’t alive for 86. We’ve been through a lot. Let’s win this thing so we can tell all the haters to F off.
     
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  12. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    Against Netherland, it better to start 3-5-2. More attack and support from full backs and more solid at the back.

    Di Maria i think he should come in second half.
     
  13. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Our go around 7:25 when Lautaro could’ve backheeled to Montiel and Montiel could’ve given a pass to Nico for a tap in.


    Lautaro sometimes tries too hard. He forces things that do not need to be forced. Help your team in other ways.



    So, with a 3-5-2, we go with Cuti, Licha, and Ota and with Acuña, and Molina. And in the midfield with Enzo, Mac and RDP, so our forwards would be Messi and Julian?

    I think we’ll need ADM to run at the Dutch defenders.
     
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  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Messi now has 14 goals + 4 assists in 11 games in 2022 for Argentina.
     
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  16. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    YouTube are being really brutal about taking down World Cup footage, even fancam stuff. I was uploading like crazy at Russia 2018, but this tournament they're blocking and taking down stuff left right and center. I know the golden rule is not to point the camera at the screen in the stadium so not to get any of their footage, but they seem to be taking down stuff even without that
     
  17. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Thats big tech for you. They're above law & goverment.
     
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  18. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  19. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  20. afar

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    Apr 26, 2007
  21. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. Pekerman

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    May 20, 2006
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  23. Amuseddaysleeper

    Jul 8, 2014
    And Netherlands were destroying USA up the flanks, I’m sure scaloni will have taken notes
     
  24. Amuseddaysleeper

    Jul 8, 2014
    almost every goal scored against us has some insanely low xG attached to it
     
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  25. johnbarley2

    johnbarley2 Member+

    Jan 19, 2013
    Now that he can't dribble like he used to, he has to rely more on smart play. I see him as more Maradona-like than before when he really wasn't that similar.
     

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