Pre-match: 2022 World Cup Oranje qualifying matches

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  1. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This ^^^^

    But good thing is Berghuis is a lefty, and Depay shoots right.
    So we have weapons from both sides of the box now
     
  2. They don't decide those things, the FA's do.
     
  3. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Yep... when was the last time a goal scored from a free-kick? Didn't recall anything recent.

    Also..... need somebody who can unleash cannonballs from distance on an open play. Think of Jonk or Seedorf. None of the current midfielders have the appetite or ability to do this consistently. This would keep the opposing team practice social-distance more, and come out farther (not simply congregating and barricading in their own penalty box).
     
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  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    How so?? Are you saying each European country's FA decides whether to release their players to the World Cup??
     
  5. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Gravenberch. he has scored some of those long range goals at Ajax. Gakpo could do as well imo. the lanky guys
     
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  6. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    They would vote on whether a WC every two years is a good idea.
     
  7. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member

    Apr 5, 2005
    Personally, I don’t like the WC every 2 years or too many teams/matches. It is tough on players and quality degrades. I feel that the only reason to do 2 years is for money.
     
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  8. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    And could their vote not possibly be "bought"??

    Maybe a stupid question, but I have no idea how all this works :confused:
     
  9. No, the FA's decide wether UEFA goes with the idea of the two year WC. If they donot agree with it, FIFA can't do shit.
     
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  10. Koopmeiners can.
     
  11. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Looks like they have arrived already :D :eek: :(

     
  12. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    All of them are on the bench; Koopmeiners, Gravenberch, Gakpo, Berghuis (at CAM).
     
  13. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I would say Ihattaren will dethrone him if he hits the ground rolling at Samporida and like what Lang and danjuma did respectively. he currently has fitness issues which is as result of not playing before due his transfer Backlog and also a hamstring injury.
     
  14. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    There was a lot of corruption in our region where votes were bought from small country FAs. This has been well documented in 'the Fall of the House of FIFA' by David Conn.
     
  15. To be bought, you have to be in a position that makes it attractive. Everybody sees how much money UEFA makes from the EUROS. The whole idea of that Bi-annual WC is to replace the EUROs with a WC.
    So for all other confederations it's a win situation as they instead of every 4 years (their own confederation championships do generate shit in money) money from the WC they can now grab it every two years. For the UEFA FA's it means the money that is theirs, gets spread out over all the other confederations (and alot of that into the pockets of their corrupt officials.
    So FIFA has nothing to offer to any of the UEFA Fa's, only take their money.
    Without UEFA a WC has no meaning, no attraction to sponsors etc.
    So if UEFA tells we keep our EURO at the same time as that xtra WC, what do you think will happen with the sponsor funds? Heading to UEFA or to FIFA?
     
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  16. Weghorst out with covid for Wolfsburg. So he jeopardized both his club competitiveness and of the Orange Squad.
     
  17. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Did he wind up refusing the vaccine??
     
  18. I dunno, but he was a bit evasive some time ago about what he exactly ment with some social media outings about vaccination.
     
  19. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member

    Apr 5, 2005
    I watched Barca-Valencia on the weekend. With Ansu Fati back, Memphis played well (a clinical thunderous PK that he should do more often, an assist/lay off to Fati) as he has someone to compliment him. With Busquet in the back, FDJ has the freedom to roam and venture forward with those run. I hope LVG can find time (in Nation Leagues perhaps) to have someone in the back (preferably Gravenberch or Koop or someone else rather than De Roon) and push FDJ up front as an option. With FDJ in the back, the other team can do high pressing, taking FDJ out and then Oranje will lose the midfield's control/creativity. It is something that worth to experiment/test after November matches.
     
  20. Oranje Agony

    Oranje Agony Member

    Nov 22, 2016
    SF Bay Area
    Blind scored today for Ajax in their UCL match vs. Dortmund. Highlight starts at 1:51:



    He also supplied the assist on their fourth goal (by Haller) to put the icing on the cake.

    Meanwhile, de Vrij scored for Inter in their UCL match vs. Sheriff Tiraspol - with an assist from compatriot Denzel Dumfries. (Starts at 7:25.)



    It was a good day for Dutch defenders.
     
  21. Oranje Agony

    Oranje Agony Member

    Nov 22, 2016
    SF Bay Area
    Memphis was good, and Barca may be getting back on track.

    He typically plays the full 90 for both club and country. I worry that Koeman and LVG are running him into the ground.
     
  22. richsavare

    richsavare Member

    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Frenkie going forward a lot for Barca making runs into the penalty area is great to see.
    Totally agree that Memphis should smash he PK like this. Cillessen just rooted LOL.
    Memphis also working pretty hard off the ball most of the time which I figured he would have to do in order to keep things good with Barca support. Lazy Memphis on occasion in the past is not a good look.
     

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