Pre-match: 2022 World Cup Oranje qualifying matches

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  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Blind has a torn ankle ligament that will require surgery. His Ajax season is finished and it's not clear whether he will be healthy for the Euros.
     
  2. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    #402 BaritoPutra, Apr 1, 2021
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    Ouch, such terrible news... :x3: In spite of his technical limitation on field, every team needs a player-leader like Blind who plays smartly and with all his heart. Speedy recovery to him! Hope he makes it to Euro.
     
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  3. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  4. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    I’m not the biggest Blind fan, I think he’s too slow for a fullback and too light for a CB, not to mention defensively suspect. Bit of a jack of all trades but master of none type player. The Dirk Kuyt of defense so to speak.

    However, I do agree that he’s a smart player, a great passer of the ball (I’ll never forget his pass to RVP vs Spain), and leaves it all out on the pitch. I think he would have made a great CDM.

    If he doesn’t make the Euros than Wijndal will be our starting LB. Let’s hope he can play like he does with AZ for the NT as well. I think he just needs a bit more confidence.

    I also don’t think it’s ever a good idea nor is it beneficial to incorporate a player last-minute after long-term injury for a big tournament. Lack of match rhythm plays a huge role in the desired/realistic performance trade-off.

    Arjen Robben is one of the few players who didn’t seem to need match rhythm to hit the ground running. Most players do though.
     
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  5. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Too bad for Blind.
    Getting hurt on the crap field turf is just terrible for him.
    I’ve certainly been critical of him because of his athletic limitations, but clearly he is a great passer of the ball and a very experienced, tactically aware player.
    Big loss for Ajax in these European matches.
    Wishing him a speedy recovery.
     
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  6. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Yeah very lucky.
    He's a really bad player there is no mincing words.
     
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  7. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Incredible that Weghorst is constantly left out. It truly makes no sense.
     
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  8. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Too bad for Blind. Great passer of the ball and a very calm collective professional. His experience will be missed.
     
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  9. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Yes Frenkie needs to become much more of a threat.
    Long range shooting is a MUST for him to work on.
    He is so good playing between the lines. Very smooth and skillful
     
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  10. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Koeman was unbelievable when it came to long range shooting and passing.
    World Class player for me.
     
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  11. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
    Wijndal needs to improve his crossing accuracy. He seems a little unsure of himself.
    Regarding Robben, all I can say is how badly he is missed.
    Watching Berghuis in his position is pretty shocking. I don't rate him at all.
     
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  12. DutchFanatic

    DutchFanatic Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Dec 23, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yeah I think a lot of the reason everyone is so disappointed with Berghuis is because we're used to having Robben there and know we should have had Ziyech there. Instead we have Berghuis. It's not really his fault because he's better than the alternatives, but that's about it.
     
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  13. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I cannot stand the guy.
    It’s hard to believe that he is even in the squad.
    I’m literally tired of watching him attempt to play.
    How can any Oranje fan want to see this continuous garbage?
     
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  14. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    What a player Koeman was and hopefully his tremendous skill as a player will run off on Frenkie.
    Koeman’s work as Manager of Oranje has gone down the toilet with Frank now in charge.
     
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  15. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    If Robben was to find form I would take him over Berghuis immediately.
    Not going to happen though.
     
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  16. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    What a shame how the KNVB screwed up with not selecting Ziyech.
    How great would he look in the Oranje?
    That said he has been slow to make his mark at Chelsea.
     
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  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He has to show he can play more than one game and not get hurt.:(
     
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  18. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He's doing much better since Tuchel took over. Lampard had no clue how to use him. In fact, one might argue that Lampard was the Frank de Boer of the EPL; great player terrible manager.
     
  19. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He’s been injured too which has not helped. Certainly Frank Lampard has his detractors.
    Our universal pain with Frank De Boer is a whole different level mental torture.
    :sleep:
     
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  20. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Story of his career. Many injuries.
    Way too much to ask of him I’m afraid, but what a sight he would be.
    I’m dreaming I know.
     
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  21. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  22. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Just a note to bring this one up to the top of the queue. I locked the Euro thread as the tournament concluded yesterday. Here is the thread to discuss all the upcoming WC qualifiers.
     
  23. :ROFLMAO:
    Now that he's with Ajax and the Ajax biased coaches are bound to include him in the selection and/or the fielded team.
    Enjoy being annoyed by him at Ajax. Hope he lives up to your expectations:)
     
  24. The EURO final is a reminder of how important experience is in tournement matches.
    Italy had the hardest travel through the rounds towards the final, with the physically most exhausting road too with an old squad, while England had the the eay road with only a big team in their way with Germany (coached by Löw!!) and physically less draining path, with one of the youngest teams in the tournement.
    Italy's experience got them back on track after 20 minutes of "chaos" due to the counter attack first minute goal.
     
  25. bunbohue

    bunbohue Member+

    Apr 5, 2005
    In my opinion, Italy tactic did not play well with England's 3-4-3 at the beginning, but Mancini made the right adjustment with off came Immobile in place of Berradi, Barella replaced by Cristante, freeing up Chiesa and Insigne. I also wonder if Southgate sub in Rashford, Sancho and Sarkar a bit too late. Jorginho and Verrati also played well, and Donnarumma came through even 2 Italian players failed with PK. Italy is the deserved winner, beating 3 strong teams in Belgium, Spain and England to win.
     

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