Pre-match: 2022 World Cup Oranje qualifying matches

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  1. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    So our 2022 campaign starts in Istanbul on March 24th against Turkey.

    How about trying a 4-4-2 with Weghorst and Depay up top??
    Or a defensive 5-3-2 lineup with 2 attacking MF'ers, 3 CB's and 2 wingbacks??

    Or have I completely lost my mind?? :D


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  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    you are presuming that FdB is a rational and intelligent manager. Unfortunately, neither is true.
     
  3. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Weghorst with a MoTM performance today... 1 goal and 2 assists. Surely he has booked his place in the final squad - and in my estimation, he has a fairly decent chance to start.

    Didn’t FdB experiment with a 3-5-2/5-3-2 formation in his early Oranje managerial games? I didn’t come away with strong impressions... so I guess a 4-3-3 would do just fine for me.

    Wout at the spearhead, with Memphis and Stengs on the flank. The slight concern with that... both Memphis and Stengs would demand a lot of balls on their feet and drop deep, so that could leave Weghorst isolated and easily double-teamed.

    Alternatively, Malen for Stengs to add another direct attacker. Maybe there’s a way to incorporate Stengs as a “10” - him on the bench would be quite a pity as he’s one of the best and most creative players in the team.
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    If we field 3 CB's (Ake, Ligt and Vrij) I highly doubt too many teams in our group can penetrate that defense. Especially not if we add a good LB and RB (Dumfries and ??).

    Then with guys like LdJ, Wijnaldum, Depay and Weghorst up front we could catch them on the counter-attack
     
  5. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Ake has just recently returned to training, and he was out for a long time (almost 2 months?) I don’t trust him... he won’t have the fitness and rhythm.

    LB has to go to Wijndal if FdB plays two high-flying wing backs. Blind there would just defeat the purpose altogether. And an emphatic no to Van Aanholt!
     
  6. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I really dont know why vDijk was called up, there is no way he's matchfit
     
  7. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Virgil was called up? Don’t think so...

    BTW - Klopp believes that Virgil will miss the Euro, terrible news :x3:
     
  8. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    Man that would really suck. Massive blow for Virgil too. He’s pushing 30 and he might be able to squeeze out one more big tournament after the Euro. Good thing it’s the WC I suppose.

    After that the young talents will take over. We have a lot of those. Hopefully Struijk gets called up, we have de Ligt who’s still very young, we have Botman. Even young Timber is making big strides at Ajax.
     
  9. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Err, voorselectie???




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  10. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
  11. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  12. richsavare

    richsavare Member

    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Ridiculous looking at Babel Strootman Luuk, Promes, Zoet.
    Benchwarmers Van Aanholt, Beek, Kluivert, Ihatteren.
    Hateboer has been terrible for Oranje when picked.
    Propper and De Roon don’t do it for me.
    Ake rides bench at City and is coming off injury.
    Virgil? He is sadly injured as we all know.
    That makes zero sense.
    No Gravenberch? He’s on fire at the moment and should start.
    Lang on fire too, but no inclusion?
    Continue on with the unathletic and slow Daley Blind.
    De Boer is sickening.
     
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  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I am not going to watch a single NT match until the KNVB sacks Frank de Boer. Rewarding ineptness and mediocrity is not the way to go. I have no clue why he picks the players he does and his tactics are just awful. No qualifiers or Euros for me this year.
     
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  14. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    Final squad will be released on Friday.

    We know who will not be included: Botman, Koopmeiners, Boadu and Lang.... all of them are part of the Jong Oranje squad.

    Gravenberch should be there, as he's is not in JO.
     
  15. DutchHuskie

    DutchHuskie Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    May 6, 2020
     
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  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Match officials have been announced for the upcoming games. Brit Michael Oliver will call the Turkey match while Frenchwoman Stephanie Frappart has the whistle for the game against Latvia.
     
  17. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  18. richsavare

    richsavare Member

    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    But you will not be watching?
    No analysis?
    No player ratings?
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    No, No, & No; The player selection is awful as others have noted and why watch a match against Latvia.
     
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  20. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member+

    Jan 26, 2007
    De Vrij tested positive for COVID, and will miss the qualifying matches later this month. Sucks.

    Both De Ligt and Ake had injury struggles and just recently returned... Blind is probably now the best candidate for LCB (no Botman).

    The other CD options are Veltman and St. Juste. Not exactly promising.
     
  21. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    This is EXACTLY why the hesitation on Struijk is ridiculous. These things can always happen, we’re already likely gonna miss Virgil at the Euros.

    Wth is FdB doing? Is he that hell-bent on ruining his coaching career? Ffs.
     
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  22. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Can Botman not be called up??
     
  23. Jpows

    Jpows Member+

    F.C. Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jun 4, 2018
    One thing’s for sure, we can always rely on FdB to make the worst possible choice.
     
  24. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Get Stek to start for Oranje now!! (after watching YB game)
     
  25. DutchFanatic

    DutchFanatic Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Dec 23, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Agreed this is the perfect opportunity to call up Struijk. And if he never plays for NL again because he's not good enough and loses his chance to play for Belgium... Welcome to international football without loopholes. Only the best of the best get to play for their country and most people don't have the privilege of a follow up option to another national team. That's the prestige of international football.
     
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