2022 Women's Asian Cup

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  1. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Great preview by the AFC:

    "Heavyweights, hopefuls and key matches: Examining the AFC Women’s Asian Cup qualifying draw" (The-AFC.com), including
    - The heavyweights’ path: Three top contenders
    - Since you’ve been gone: Three long-term absentees who could shine
    - Must-see matches: Five crucial games on the road to India
    / (Archive)


    Did India pull out of playing in the qualifiers? They said they were planning to do that as a practice.
     
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  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    "(...)
    in preparation for the AFC Women’s Asian Cup India 2022, the AFC Executive Committee also decided to provide greater flexibility in finalising the dates for the Qualifiers, which is currently scheduled for September 13 to 25, 2021, taking into consideration the challenges that may arise from the availability of hosts, team travel arrangements, quarantine and medical measures imposed by several nations.

    Therefore, the AFC will now work with the relevant host Member Associations to finalise the competition dates to complete the Qualifiers."

    also

    "The AFC Executive Committee has today approved the AFC Women’s Football Committee’s recommendation to cancel the AFC U17 Women’s Asian Cup Indonesia 2022 and the AFC U20 Women’s Asian Cup Uzbekistan 2022."

    (AFC article)
     
  3. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Curious what they use as qualifiers for the U-17 and U-20 World Cups now?
     
  4. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Turkmenistan has withdrawn from Group A. North Korea has withdrawn from Group C. Both due to COVID-19 travel restrictions. Opens the door for one of Indonesia, Singapore or Iraq to get to the final tournament and another mid-level team from AFC to qualify for the 2023 WWC.
     
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  5. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Qualified for the AFC Women's Cup:
    India(host)
    Japan
    Australia
    China

    (*group host)
    GROUP A: Chinese Taipei*, Bahrain, Laos
    GROUP B: Vietnam, Tajikistan*, Maldives, Afghanistan
    GROUP C: Indonesia*, Singapore, Iraq
    GROUP D: Lebanon*, Guam, Myanmar, United Arab Emirates
    GROUP E: South Korea, Uzbekistan*, Mongolia
    GROUP F: Nepal*, Hong Kong, Philippines
    GROUP G: Jordan, Iran, Bangladesh(*Uzbekistan replaces Bangladesh as host)
    GROUP H: Palestine*, Thailand, Malaysia
     
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  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    After these withdrawals, it stings even more that some decent teams ended in up in the same group as strong contenders (as it happened to Uzbekistan in South Korea's group), since few teams would have most probably meant a re-shuffling of the pots, with more chances for some middle-tier team to advance.

    Frankly, I would have preferred to see Uzbekistan play the final tournament, than a lucky random team like Indonosia, Singapore or Iraq.
     
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  7. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    With Australia already qualified as hosts, I'd guess and say the five to qualify directly to the WWC are: Japan, China, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam. The two to go to the playoff tournament would likely be Myanmar and Philippines (with Taipei as the dark horse). India, plus the Group C & G qualifiers should be the ones at the bottom.
     
  8. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Tomorrow is the start - the qualifying groups have become the most unpredictable for many years, due to pandemics and some teams being unable to play:

    Because North Korea and Iraq withdrew, a 2-leg match will decide group C - so, it'll be a shock qualification for either Indonesia or Singapore to the finals!


    Nepal enter for the first time since the 1999 Asian Championship. After good results in South Asia in recent years, they'll play Hong Kong and the Philippines' Malditas in group F, but Nepal are lacking the injured star striker Bhandari. Two friendlies of Nepal v Bangladesh last week ended 2-1 and 0-0.

    Matches are happening around Asia in September, for six of the eight groups - this is the AFC's preview:
    - "Excitement builds ahead of AFC Women’s Asian Cup India 2022™ Qualifiers"

    First game is in Uzbekistan on Friday, with a debutant, and an experienced team:

    "The action will kick off on September 17 in Group E when Mongolia, who are seeking their first appearance in the Finals, face Korea Republic, who finished third in 2003, at the Pakhtakor Stadium in Tashkent at 4pm (local time)." -- (The-AFC.com)

    A venue probably not as unnerving as the last time they qualified... :)

    "North And South Korea At Loggerheads, This Time At Women's Football" (2017)
    [​IMG]


    Fixtures & standings here - correct for your timezone:
    https://www.the-afc.com/competitions/afc-womens-asian-cup/fixtures/
     
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  9. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #34 Lechus7, Oct 8, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2021
    The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has confirmed that the National Anti-Doping Organisations (NADOs) of North Korea, Thailand and Indonesia have each been declared non-compliant with the World Anti-Doping Code.

    As a result, the 3 countries now face strict sanctions:

    • Not allowed to be awarded the right to host any regional, continental or World Championship events by any Code signatory for a year or until they are reinstated, whichever is the longest period.
    • National flags also cannot be flown at major events other than the Olympic and Paralympic Games for as long as the NADOs are non-compliant.
    • The NADOs also lose their WADA privileges and are ineligible to stage any event hosted, organised, co-hosted, or co-organised by WADA.
    • Representatives from the trio will be unable to serve as a member of any WADA committee or its Foundation Board
    Thailand and Indonesia already qualiffied for AFC Cup 2022, North Korea withdrew.

    Unless FIFA finds some loophole or said NADOs comply with WADA, women teams from those countries won't be able to play in AFC Cup (at least not under their own flag).
     
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  10. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    If Thailand can't participate, the likelihood of India, Iran or Taipei qualifying for the World Cup becomes more likely.
     
  11. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    I'd assume Singapore and Malaysia would replace them in the AFC Cup.
     
  12. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #37 Lechus7, Oct 8, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2021
    Most likely...however for competitivness sake I'd rather replace one of them with Uzbekistan.
    If the draw was made again today Uzbekistan (43) and South Korea (18) both would've probably been seeded and couldn't meet in the same group. The thoughest opponent Uzbeks could've drawn in such scenario with 8 groups would've been Iran (72) or Hong Kong (76).
    Even if we consider new scenario with 6 groups insted of 8, still the toughest opponent that Uzbek team should've drawn is Jordan (63) or Philippines (68).

    I have no idea how it was allowed to happen for both South Korea and Uzbekistan to be drawn into the same group. :confused:
     
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  13. JanBalk

    JanBalk Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    So much like Russia in recent events then.
    Pretty safe bet they will be allowed to particpate but representing the National Soccer Federations or something not the nation itself.
     
  14. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Thailand has better chance as their players need only to show their domestic anti-dope tests and they can play under neutral flag.

    Indonesia (and North Korea) ban is more severe:
    • These Signatories’ activities related to their outstanding testing corrective actions will be subject to supervision by an approved third party, at the Signatories’ expense, including up to six site visits per year, with all costs to be paid in advance, where known (ISCCS Annex B.3.1 (c)).
    Question is if Indonesian FA will pay extra and go for all the trouble for their Women's Team only to play under neutral flag.
     
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  15. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Draw 28th Oct

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    With North Korea qualifying for the u17 and u20 WWC next year, we have to wonder if they will be allowed to participate?
     
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  17. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #42 Lechus7, Oct 26, 2021
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2021
    The Signatories’ countries’ flags will not be flown at regional, continental or world championships, or events, organized by Major Event Organizations, other than at the Olympic Games and Paralympic Games, for the next edition of that event or until reinstatement, whichever is longer (ISCCS Annex B.3.1(e.2)).

    It would suggest they will be allowed to participate next year because this year qualifications are part of same WWC U17/U20 event. It's next cycle that would see them barred from entry under national flag. I guess... :unsure:

    (Indonesia were to host 2022 AFC Women's U17 Cup but the AFC announced cancellation of the tournament on 5 July 2021)
     
  18. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  19. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Makes it fairly easy to determine who qualifies for what.
    Group winners: China, Australia, Japan
    2nd: Taipei, Thailand, South Korea
    3rd & advances to knockout round: Philippines & Vietnam.

    QUARTERFINALS
    China* vs. Vietnam
    Japan* vs. Philippines
    Australia+ vs. South Korea
    Taipei vs. Thailand*
    *qualifies for WC, +wins & is already qualified as hosts

    Losers bracket:
    Vietnam* vs. Philippines
    South Korea* vs. Taipei
    Philippines & Taipei lose but qualify for WC playoff
     
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  20. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    I wouldn't discount so easily Philippines, now that they signed former Australia's coach Alen Stajcic. I am not saying that they're going to unseat Thailand for 2nd-place in their group, but I could see them beat Vietnam for a direct qualification to the WWC instead, for instance. :coffee:
     
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  21. Dernhelm

    Dernhelm Member+

    May 13, 2014
    Drovers Run
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    thanks for this. looks like we really need to finish 2nd for a best case scenario.
     
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  22. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Suspicion of foul play by Iran WNT.
    20211115_184048.jpg

    Player most in question is Iranian goalie.
     
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  23. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    " Gender verification not mandatory for players" wow...
     
  24. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Yeah it's still a Wild East some places out there in terms off women's football. That's why for example I don't buy into any results by North Korea youth and senior womens teams from past decade.
     
  25. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Zohreh Koudaei has played in various tournaments before and has had these allegations throughout the years, but both AFC and FIFA have apparently come down on her side and against Jordan's accusations.
     

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