2022 WC qualification--tracking the rankings (R)

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  1. Kyle_The_Hill

    Kyle_The_Hill New Member

    Toronto FC
    Canada
    Oct 3, 2019
    Also shot in the dark but has anyone heard a rumour about when the 2022 FIFA World Cup qualification (inter-confederation play-offs) matchups will be announced?
     
  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Canada need to go for broke and play one of the big guns with all they got: Argentina, Belgium, Spain, Brazil. Only way to get those points in time.

    Play it like a final. You either get the win or get slaughtered, but at least tried and didn't hide like El Salvador.
     
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  3. Kyle_The_Hill

    Kyle_The_Hill New Member

    Toronto FC
    Canada
    Oct 3, 2019
    Why does everyone think we cant get the points in time? If we win all three of these matches we'll be 9 points back with two official FIFA windows left. Plus there has been discussion of playing matches in May. So no, we dont need to play Brazil lol
     
  4. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, Canada could take a more sinister, blatantly un-Canadian route:

    Montagliani channels his inner Jack Warner and works out a backroom deal with Cordeiro, the USSF withdraws from the Nations League...and all of a sudden, Canada's got a juicy semifinal with Honduras with literally nothing to lose :ROFLMAO::devilish:
     
  5. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Canada beat Barbados today.

    15 more out of window friendlies, and they'll be in business.
     
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  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7 January

    Canada(1331) vs. Barbados(1011) 4-1
    1 - (1/(10^(-320/600) + 1)) = 0.2265
    5 * 0.2265 = 1.1325
    CAN + 1 BRB -1

    MEX 1621
    USA 1540
    CRC 1442
    JAM 1437
    HON 1377
    SLV 1346
    --
    CAN 1332 (+1)
    CUW 1313
    PAN 1304
    HAI 1285
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Mark my words: Canada fails to take a big risk, they won't be in the Hex. They need to play a big team and beat it.
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope they announce it before the Oceanian qualifiers start in June. It used to be done at the WCQ draw for all confederations, which no longer exists.
     
  9. Kyle_The_Hill

    Kyle_The_Hill New Member

    Toronto FC
    Canada
    Oct 3, 2019
    Again, that's completely wrong but keep marking those words.
     
  10. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Sure, and all we need to do to win the World Cup is to play a bunch of big teams and beat them.

    Playing a team like Brazil or Spain (assuming we could arrange it) would be like buying a lottery ticket: A huge pay off if you happen to win but really low odds of ever cashing in.

    We have a much better chance of getting to the hex by arranging a series of small but winnable steps. We still might not make it but the chances are far higher than risking everything on an all or nothing long shot.
     
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  11. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    A more reasonable calculated risk for Canada perhaps could be to arrange a friendly(ies) against relatively high-ranked mid-tier Euro team.

    UEFA teams will be free for friendly matches during the June window with the Euro coming up. I don’t think European sides that have qualified for the Euro would be likely to want to prepare by playing Canada, but perhaps Canada could convince some non-qualified Euro teams to make the trip to Canada. I think Canada is capable of beating a team like Serbia, Slovakia, or the Republic of Ireland at home. It’s not guaranteed, but the chances are high enough that the benefit may be worth the calculated risk.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Beating them by a couple of points, however, means SLV can schedule a couple of games against St. Vincent and recover those points.
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok then, how about the CSA just say "F' it" and offer El Salvador a ton of money for a home-and-away series?
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    FIFA would flag that one in a New York minute, unless they get part of the purse.
     
  15. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? Has FIFA ever prevented two teams in good standing from playing a friendly against each other? Teams get paid to play friendlies all the time.
     
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  16. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    He was talking about Canada offering them "a ton of money" for coming out of their den. I bet they'd find something wrong with that.
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Regardless of what FIFA thinks, would El Salvador take the money if by not taking the money they thought they could sell tickets to Hexagonal games hosting the top teams?
     
  18. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All of this being hypothetical...

    The Salvadoran Fed could commission a study of how much they'd stand to make by playing in the Hex and demand the CSA offer at least half of that amount for the friendlies...knowing full well that la Selecta would just have to win one of the two games and their Hex spot is safe, basically fleecing the Canadians.
     
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  19. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010

    No one in the Salvadorian FA is going to commission that study. There are people on these boards that have already given more thought to the different scenarios that could play out over the next few months than anyone at the Salvadorian FA has. Recently the FA president in El Salvador said they were looking at possibly scheduling a friendly in March against either Greece, Switzerland, Hungry or Costa Rica.

    If Canada offered them money for the game they would take it and if asked why they did so they would spin it as them trying to prepare the team for the hex. The level of incompetence and corruption in the Salvadorian FA would surprise some of you.
     
  20. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10 January

    Canada(1332) vs. Barbados(1010) 4-1
    1 - (1/(10^(-322/600) + 1)) = 0.2252
    5 * 0.2252 = 1.126
    CAN +1 BRB -1

    MEX 1621
    USA 1540
    CRC 1442
    JAM 1437
    HON 1377
    SLV 1346
    --
    CAN 1333 (+2)
    CUW 1313
    PAN 1304
    HAI 1285
     
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  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm a bit late here:

    15 January


    Canada(1333) vs. Iceland(1464) 0-1
    1 - (1/(10^(-131/600) + 1)) = 0.3769
    5 * 0.3769 = 1.8845
    ISL +2 CAN -2

    MEX 1621
    USA 1540
    CRC 1442
    JAM 1437
    HON 1377
    SLV 1346
    --
    CAN 1331
    CUW 1313
    PAN 1304
    HAI 1285

    In my rounded-off version, Canada's January friendlies yielded a net zero points. In reality Canada gained approximately 1/3 of a point.
     
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  22. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Canada needs to beat Brazil in a FIFA window to have a chance.

    RIP. ✟
     
  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    No one got as screwed by this new format as Canada. Not only they have to travel the longest distances now, to Central America and Caribbean lands, but this was also the time when they had a solid shot to make the Hex.

    And don't tell me the format was changed because the usual schedule didn't fit. Grab pen and paper and check yourself, keeping in mind all the windows that have gone by with friendlies only already.

    I'm a Yank fan but I'm convinced this change in format was made to avoid the USA not making it again. C-CAF loses money when we don't make it. Since the 2026 is hosted in North America and by 2030 there's going to be 48 teams for sure, this is also the only time such little help will be needed.
     
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  24. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    If Canada was not always gifted qualification to the Gold Cup and had to play their way in like all the Central American and Caribbean teams, they would likely have a higher FIFA rank by virtue of probably doing well enough to still qualify in qualifying tournament.
     
  25. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Doubtful. Canada withers in the heat.
     
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