2022 WC Qatar: Worldwide Opponents Watch [all R's]

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  1. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ball still in Japanese style
     
  2. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something tells me Morocco have practiced their penalties...
     
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  3. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news for Spain: Marocco never won on PK shootouts
     
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  4. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can practice but real PKs are really mental
     
  5. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too much possessions are for nothing
     
  6. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
  7. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can barely watch this - and I'm not even Moroccan (to my knowledge)
     
  8. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s time for Bono to sing
     
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  9. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Gotta think he has The Edge
     
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  10. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will it be a Beautiful Day for them?
     
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  11. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    hopefully it leads them to a Bloody, uh, Saturday...
     
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  12. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These two teams suck at PK shootouts historically
     
  13. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Spain still hasn't found what their looking for.
     
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  14. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish the coin flip would just be the winner chooses side, or first/second. Rather than two independent flips.
     
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  15. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    Spain's xCoinflip stat is out of control
     
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  16. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would figure Landon would know the mentality. Has he ever missed a PK for the nats?
     
  17. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    In a vacuum, that makes a lot of sense. That said, I don't really think, rhetoric aside, that we were trying to make a point in the most superficial sense.

    I think we were primarily playing to our best strengths. Do you want to try and win playing to your strengths or mitigating your weakness? I think it's a viable discussion that probably varies with a whole ton of variables. But the idea is the same: dance with who and what brought you.

    I don't think this team is any good not playing aggressively. That doesn't mean constant high press -- we clearly didn't do that all tourney and you can apply midblock pressure. But I do think that this team was crap sitting back passively and would be pretty crap doing that. I think the Netherlands dissects us anyway. I simply think they thought this gameplan was our best gameplan.

    And that said, we WERE playing defensively. We just weren't sitting back and passive. Part of the reason for our offensive struggles is that our 8s held back far more this tourney than they did previously. How often did you see McKennie in the box? Not a lot.

    We played defensively, we just didn't sit passively and give the ball away. And I'm okay with that -- that strategy can drive an upset, but for our overall aspirations, it isn't really repeatable long term. Teams that go far can play defensively in terms of offensive commitment; they can focus on counterattacking, but the bunker and complete abdication of the ball is not one that works across a full tournament.
     
  18. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Hammering it right down the middle always works.
     
  19. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spanish don’t look confident
     
  20. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    long live the bunker
     
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  21. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    garbage penalty by Spain #2.
     
  22. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Simon did it
     
  23. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams
    United States
    May 26, 2001
    Westminster, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    I know you risk skying it, but seems like players at this level would go top bins more. Much harder to save.


    And...AGAIN. Garbage. Spain
     
  25. UncagedGorilla

    Barcelona
    Sep 22, 2009
    East Bay, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I never let my players take weak run ups. I stand by that decision after watching penalties these past two days.
     
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