2022 WC Qatar: Worldwide Opponents Watch [all R's]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know what. Netherlands in the R16 wasn't so bad after all.
     
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  2. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brazil is a much better team with Neymar.

    I also think like us South Korea spent all the gas in the tank to get to the round of 16. Brazil is clearly better, but I don't know if they are this much better.

     
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  3. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Another reminder it’s hard to take the next step.
     
  4. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams, OC SC
    May 26, 2001
    Santa Ana, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    5 minutes of extra time for dancing
     
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  5. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    South Korea spent it all to get here, much like us. They were fortunately to get through, anyway. Add that Brazil is so much more explosive that Netherlands, and this is what you get.
     
  6. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    1994 Brazil in the R16 wasn’t that bad after all.
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Croatia already planning how to take this Brazil to kicks from the spot.

    Time to rest Neymar, Richarlison & Vinicius.
     
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  8. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams, OC SC
    May 26, 2001
    Santa Ana, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s time for Brazil team B
     
  9. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams, OC SC
    May 26, 2001
    Santa Ana, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brazil does not need number 9 to score lots of goals
     
  10. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Brazil’s attackers are absurdly calm on the ball. They’re all holding it long enough to do the required trigonometry before picking out a shot.
     
  11. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't need a 9 when you have 5 10s
     
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  12. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    50 > 9, so this math checks out
     
  13. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Consolation golazo.
     
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  14. zlatan_but_a_car

    Botswana Meat Commission FC
    United States
    Oct 16, 2017
    So far in the round of 16 we've had 3 games that were total blowouts (FRAvPOL, ENGvSEN, BRAvKOR), 2 games where one opponent was clearly outplaying the other (USAvNED, ARGvAUS), and one truly competitive and intense game (JPNvCRO)... Portugal vs Switzerland could get interesting, but I don't have high hopes for Spain vs Morocco.

    ...

    And FIFA wants to add an EXTRA knock-out round?
     
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  15. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    Tite subs in the third keeper I guess just so he can say he played all 26 guys.
     
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  16. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Pity Southgate isn’t as compassionate
     
  17. People think too easy on progressing in the WC. History tells you otherwise. You talk about a habit, but I prefer to call it a mindset.
    Take a look at the countries with the highest semi-final numbers.
    It's a rather small collection of countries, in which we Dutch are an anomalie because of our tiny population.
     
  18. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So how exactly does this work? Brazil won the 1st half, but South Korea won the 2nd half... does that mean they're now going to play a 3rd half to see who wins the best out of 3?
     
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  19. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Lots of chalk. The US is just more like Poland, Senegal, Japan, South Korea and Australia than they are like France, Argentina, England, Brazil and even Croatia.
     
  20. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams, OC SC
    May 26, 2001
    Santa Ana, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has a chance to give every player valuable WC experiences. Smart coach
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Typically this is what happens in this round, though. The cream rises to the top. When was the last time Brazil lost in the Round of 16?

    So far teams that have reached a World Cup final are 6-0 in this round of 16. Those that haven't are 0-6.

    The one that could have gone was Japan-Croatia. Croatia was ripe for the taking, and Japan couldn't get it done.

    Since 1990, the record of CONMEBOL/UEFA teams against Asia/Africa/CONCACAF/etc. in this round is extremely depressing. For instance, only 4 African nations IN HISTORY have made it past the round of 16. How many CONCACAF teams have since 1990? Is the answer only 2? The USMNT in 2002, and Costa Rica in 2014?

    And by the way, on both of those occassions, they didn't have to face UEFA/CONMEBOL powers. The USMNT got Mexico in 2002, and Costa Rica got Greece in 2014.

    It makes the event a little less interesting. 2002 was fun because there were so many non-powers in the quarters. Korea, Senegal, US, Turkey, etc.

    Then again, the quality of games in this quarterfinals is going to be outstanding.

    I was listening to a podcast at the start of the round, and the commentators said THIS is the day for an upset. Maybe they'll be right. Switzerland in particular is capable of knocking off Portugal. Morocco has been playing very well.
     
  22. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Also helps when you're just blowing people out.

    Note that France basically rested their starting lineup in their last group game. They lost that match, but just cruised thru the round of 16 game.

    Meanwhile a nation like Croatia has been unable to give their key players any rest. They looked exhausted yesterday, even having to take Modric/Kovacic out. I'm not sure they're going to have much left in the tank for Brazil......................

    If the USMNT had managed to get by Holland, they'd be in the same position. Key players, particularly the midfield, running on fumes.
     
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  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s at least a much longer gap between the round of 16 and the quarterfinals compared to between other games. We had 3 days of rest between Wales and England, 3 days between England and Iran, and 3 days between Iran and Netherlands. Had we won against Netherlands we would have had 5 days of rest before playing Argentina. Would have had more time to recover and recharge.
     
  24. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Morocco v Spain - Potential upset warning - very high!
     
  25. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Also, people management. You have a sense of unity on this Brazilian team. They really enjoy each other company. Belgium had locker room problems and couldn't get out of group stage; when you bring together many egos and force them to live with each other for a extended period of time; you must people/ego manage.

    I think France is as good and might be even better than Brazil, if Mbappé is inspired (I think he is as good and will be as dominate as Ronaldo in his prime); The only thing that could hamper France is locker room climate. If Mbappé isn't happy with tactics or how the team is playing they will suffer.

    On the opposite spectrum you have Argentina; They all play for Messi, no conflicts because they have a shared goal.
     
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