2022 Game Day 9: RSL at PTFC Saturday, April 23 8:00pm

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by goobx1, Apr 20, 2022.

  1. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    OK, what the heck, I'll start another game day thread. I know, the hubris.

    For only being the 9th game of the season this could be a rather telling game for RSL. Does it have real playoff or supporter shield implications? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

    What it might reveal is that this team is closer to the team that played the first 4 games with grit and determination over the team that has played the next 4 games and looked young, unsure, and totally taken apart by a really talented team in NYCFCFC on Easter.

    I personally think that the team that played against NYCFCFCFC is closer to who this RSL team really is and that game was a warning to the FO that there isn't a position on this team that couldn't be upgraded. And I'm not talking about signing a DP at every position. You can't tell me RSL can't find a player to take Taters place in giving up 4 goals a game and playing out of position. Amirite?

    As we have seen this season, and last for the most part, heart can take you relatively far but can it take you to the playoffs again and again and again?

    For me the biggest need for RSL right now is some solid play in the midfield, which was the main issue last season, and finding speed almost everywhere. Especially up top.

    None of that will happen before the game on Saturday against PTFC so if RSL comes out of this match with a result I will be happy. Hell, even a well fought 2-0 loss with a bad call or two that fans can blame the ref for but RSL played like wounded racoons trying to wash off the cat food you set out for the feral cats in your neighborhood and hissing at you for not giving them the good cat food then yea, that's better than getting run off the tiny little pitch at a baseball stadium.

    I predicted 9-1 for RSL last week and that nearly came true to a certain extant so lest go with 2-1 RSL and watch the magic happen.
     
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  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Portland had absolutely dominated us in recent memory
    I don’t see that changing any time soon
     
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  3. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Portland match will cement the fact that this team sucks and needs investment from its new owners. Multi goal loss coming this weekend.
     
  4. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m actually out on the Oregon coast right now
    Have been since Saturday
    The thought crossed my mind to extend the trip to go to this game. Given the last run of games? Think I’ll just get home as planned
     
  5. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you’ve never been to a PTFC home game you should go.
     
  6. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just wear green.
     
  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was there in 2013 when we booked the ticket to kc
    It was a blast
    Have been 2 other times. Agreed
     
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  8. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why did we rest so many starters for this game? It's unlikely they get more than 1 point. Win last night would be better for everyone.
     
  9. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I don't know if any of you have kept up, but lots of Timbers fans are pretty upset over their FO turning a blind eye or even covering up abuse and harassment from former Thorns HC, among some other things.
     
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  10. evilradar

    evilradar Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Apr 4, 2019
    I hope we lose 7-0. I hope we keep getting dominated until it becomes absolutely undeniable to the owners that this team, as it is, is dog shit. Force the owners to do something. If Almeyda can get fired by the Quakes ownership, surely our ownership can do something to move us in the right direction.
     
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  11. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This team isn't as bad as the 6-0 at NYCFC. They probably aren't much better than the team that barely made the playoffs, either. If the playoffs are the goal (should be more than that, btw), this team needs help.
    They need a better performance than they've showed the last few outings if they expect to even draw with POR. I don't know how anyone can expect all 3.
     
  12. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

    Apr 11, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PTFC 1 - 3 RSL. Goals by Kreilach, Meram and the nail-in-the-coffin by Glad on a late-game corner.

    I'm not ready to get onboard the HMS EMBRATSU just yet.
     
  13. evilradar

    evilradar Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Apr 4, 2019
    I mean, but aren't they that bad? They did just lose to a team 2 divisions below them.
     
  14. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean the starters that just suffered the worse loss in club history?
    Yeah totally should have started those dudes
     
  15. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This dude enjoyed 420
     
  16. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Team hasn’t won a game in a month
    They’re bad
    The “mentality” edge is gone and the talent is showing
     
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  17. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's definitely a cause for concern/worry, but I'd like to see a healthy team run out it's first choice players/formation for a few games before going doom and gloom. I know this team needs help, but they haven't had all the players available. There's enough to be competitive with most teams and be fighting for a playoff spot (if healthy).

    Short of adding talent, what would you do with this group? Who plays? How should they play? Team seemed to do better in a 3 man backline (Schmitt is not a LB and RSL should avoid that if possible). I prefer the 3-4-3 to the 3-5-2, but I don't know how Kreialch fits.
     
  18. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    I have proven time and time again to in no way be an expert but I also like the 3-4-3. Would that have helped in the NYCFC game to have more defenders back against their really good front 4?

    If we have learned anything in the first 8 games is that Schmitt is not a LB. That poor kid has almost played himself out of the league the last few games.

    No matte what happens in Portland this weekend, the truth is that, this roster sucks. Sucks big time.

    The first four games were truly an anomaly just like we should all hope that the last 2 RSL games are also an anomaly.

    I don't expect RSL to win this game but I do hope that they come back with a few gold stars on their foreheads.
     
  19. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sucks is relative. Compared to the best teams in the league, yeah they don't compare. Are they anywhere close to worst in the league? I don't think so. Are they a borderline playoff team? Maybe.
    You can't play 3 in the back with 2 healthy CBs, and Herrera doesn't work back there.
    I'm not a fan if this roster has little flexibility with adding players. I hope Elliot doesn't have to pay other teams (like the Jazz do) to take players because he signed too many and doesn't have room for the difference makers that are supposedly coming. In theory, they should be able to add >6 impact players, but I don't know if there's room on the roster (according to league rules, yes there's more than 6 holes on the roster).
    Like you said, I expect a much better effort and showing Saturday. I'd be very happy to see a tie, but a close game is expected. Time for some pride to show through.
     
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  20. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Sucks is relative for sure but this is not a great roster. The team has proven that it's probably better than the roster but that is a dangerous game to play.

    It's certainly not the worst roster but its definitely no where near being the best for obvious reasons which is totally understandable. For now.

    My worry is that RSL, as a whole or at least the FO, has been sucked into a false sense of security with the LUCKY yet gritty run in the playoffs and the surprising and proven unsustainable start to this season.

    There are a lot of players on this team that are as good as they are ever going to be and players that are never going to be as good as they used to be. Every team has them but if your team is full of them and you have an FO that can't see that a Chang or Rubin are as good as they are ever going to be but yet they think they still have tons of room to improve then that is a recipe for disaster.

    Time will tell and it is a long season but I do think that this team is closer to the one that has played the last 4 games, and the Open Cup game, than it is the team that made the late run last year and the fun start in the first 4 games of this year.

    If nothing changes between now and May 4th when the window closes there could be some really hot seats around the club when the summer starts to heat up.

    Going to be interesting either way.
     
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  21. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This game should give us a sense of where Pablo’s priorities lie in terms of a 3 man back line or putting Kreilach in a specific spot

    glad Silva and orozco are all healthy. There is no real reason - especially with the rotation we saw - that they shouldn’t start. If we see a continued 4 man back line then I’m truly lost on what Pablo wants to do with this team

    After a less than stellar pair of games Schmitt should be dropped, Brody put at LWB and Herrera at RWB. Caldwell and Ruiz in the middle

    the front 3? That’s where this gets perplexing. I think Wood gets the nod at striker. The question then is if we see meram on the left, Chang on the right, or Kreilach withdrawn. Only 2 of those things can happen.

    If it were up to me I’d play a 3-4-2-1 of sorts with chang and Kreilach underneath wood. It gives space for Brody and Herrera to push forward into. Meram tends to drift wide left and forward and would turn this into a 3-4-1-2 that was heavy on the left side and expose gaps for Portland to get in behind

    no matter what we do, I have next to zero confidence on rsl getting anything out of this. Thus far, the team that seems to have Pablo figured out the most is Portland. I see a multiple goal loss with rsl chasing the game after going down within the first 15
     
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  22. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sadly see another loss, multiple goal loss in fact.
     
  23. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Twitter says no Damir tonight. Hoping for a 3-4-3 with Herrera and Brody as wingbacks.
     
  24. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm at work, so it'll be on in the background. I have a feeling we lose big again.
     
  25. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to be contrary, but I’ll be interested to see if maybe our attack doesn’t have more bite.
     

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