2022 Game Day 20: RSL at ATL. Wed. July 13, 5:30pm MT

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  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL makes a midweek trip to Atlanta tomorrow. Both teams are in a poor run of form. RSL, however, is much better in terms of overall standings. Atlanta sits at 11th place in the East, with 20 points through 18 games played. They have been far from invincible at home with a record of 4-3-2 (WDL). Atlanta is coming off a 3-0 home loss to Austin and had some public leaks of locker room frustration.

    If this was over a weekend with a week's rest, I'd say this game is one RSL has a chance to grab a point, or even possibly the full three. Given this is on short rest with another game just 4 days after, I'm just not optimistic. I think we see rotation; the interesting thing will be just how much rotation happens and where.

    My XI: 4/5/1
    Cordova
    Schmitt Caldwell Luna Besler Chang
    Brody Silva Kappelhoff Herrera
    MacMath
     
  2. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2 Med_Phys, Jul 12, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2022
    I'm stealing this from Matt at the Soapbox, but I like the thought process he went through.

    3-4-2-1
    Rubin
    Luna Savarino
    Hidalgo Besler Caldwell Schmitt
    Holt Orozco Kablan
    MacMath

    I think Rubin will do much better with service from guys like Luna and Savarino. He's not Wood, we have to play differently with him if we're expecting goals from him. Pretty sure we've seen that when we look at him scoring last year. Cordova should be available as a sub, but I don't like him as a single forward. Maybe it works if Rubin can't go 90? Anyone heard about Julio? It's been strangely quiet.

    I only expect 45-60 minutes from Savarino. Meram or Chang or both should get 30-45 minutes in the match. Joni isn't expected to be available. He's supposed to be in Argentina for his expected loan move.

    I think Besler and Caldwell can stay home and be defensive like they need to be for this to work. Jasper and Ruiz would be a good sub for 15-30 minutes. Bode and Tate provide width and a focus on defense. Herrera and Brody should be available as emergency subs.

    The back 3 deserve some minutes. Need to see them start with the first team. Might be asking for trouble, but it's a midweek road match on turf. It's probably not going to go well anyway. Kappelhof would be my bench CB.

    Gomez is my 20th player on the bench.
     
  3. evilradar

    evilradar Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Apr 4, 2019
    No idea on a starting XI. I doubt Pablo rotates that much. I do really want Luna to start though.
     
  4. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    No matter who starts this game has disaster written all over it. I thought Cordova needed a break last game. Continuing to start him is only making things worse. Let him come of the bench and get the weight of his shoulders for game or two.

    The Soapbox 11
    3-4-2-1
    Rubin
    Luna Savarino
    Hidalgo Besler Caldwell Schmitt
    Holt Orozco Kablan
    MacMath

    I like the thought of rotation but holy crap that lineup gets obliterated in my mind. I would love to see it though and be totally wrong but damn.

    I also have $10 bucks on Orozco never ending up a true CB unless he grows about 2 to 4 inches.
     
  5. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But doesn't Atlanta need to rotate, too? They have also been decimated by injuries.
     
  6. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot about Holt. He should start over Kappelhoff.

    I don't think Silva gets dropped, though, he's been captain.

    I prefer the idea of a 4-5-1 or even 3-5-2 with defensive wing backs.

    Orozco isn't going to start - he didn't even make the gameday roster against the cRapids and the Monarchs have a game this weekend. He'll be with them.

    I have zero faith in Rubin doing anything. I'll take Cordova if you're going to make me pick. Both are in terrible form, but one actually has a goal to his name (3, in fact... and an assist!) this season. The other is on 404 minutes and doesn't have a goal or an assist. Hell, start Garcia or Hidalgo up top over Rubin. I'm done with him.

    I think Sava should be on the bench with the expectation of subbing in between 45-60 depending on game needs. Same with Meram.
     
  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    after this last weekend for Atlanta, I expect them to come into this game wanting blood. Another loss or home draw would be serious red flags for that team/coaching staff
     
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  8. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nick Rimando and Fabio Cannavaro (who is the exact same height) would take that bet.
     
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  9. irondeepbicycle

    irondeepbicycle Member+

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 31, 2017
    Orozco has played center back and defensive mid for the Monarchs. I'm personally undecided where he might play most long term. Also not convinced he'll ever be only one or the other - having positional flexibility is a plus, not a minus, IMO.

    Javier Mascherano is that exact height too, and Mascherano played in UCL finals at CB and DM. Maybe we'll want Orozco to get minutes at both spots and maintain that flexibility long-term.
     
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  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the idea of a Hidalgo starting instead of a Davis. ;)
     
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  11. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
    Both of the Bode' confuse me. Can't keep them straight.
     
  12. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not getting my hopes up. Knowing us, we'll do well enough to have hope for points, only to give up a pointless penalty.
     
  13. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither Glad nor Orozco traveled to ATL.
     
  14. UofRSL

    UofRSL Member

    Jul 23, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm hoping for a tie at this point.
    Our record without Glad in the lineup is terrible
     
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  15. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some rotation:

    MacMath

    Herrera Holt Kappelhoff

    Brody Ruiz Besler Schmitt

    Luna

    Rubio Meram

    (Or something)

    Bench: Gomez; Kablan, Silva; Loeffelsend, Caldwell, Hidalgo, Chang; Cordova

    (We're one short on the bench. Didn't travel 20, or someone out due to injury or illness?)
     
  16. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    David James with last week's talking point - that RSL has given up set piece goals on 10 of 22 goals against - when it's now 12 of 24 following the collapse against Colorado.
     
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  17. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is liable to get ugly.

    To the good, we're under 50% on set piece goals now: 12 out of 25.
     
  18. KendaReal

    KendaReal Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I don't know what I expected.
     
  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rubin with the whiff in the box.

    It's Savarino who is missing from the bench. Any news there?
     
  20. UofRSL

    UofRSL Member

    Jul 23, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Holt and Kappelhof screams attack up the gut
     
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  21. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Especially if, like on that last attacking sequence from Atlanta, neither of the two d-mids are within 20 yards of the backs.
     
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  22. UofRSL

    UofRSL Member

    Jul 23, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ruiz has fallen asleep multiple times and Holt is SO SLOW
     
  23. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is about the worst lineup choice I could think of. ESPN says 4-4-2, several playing out of position.
     
  24. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Slow and disorganized isn't a great look for us. 2-0.
     
  25. KendaReal

    KendaReal Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ATL up 2 nil without breaking a sweat.
     

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