2022 FIFA World Cup qualifiers - AFC

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by Suren01, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. Suren01

    Suren01 Member+

    Apr 9, 2012
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
  2. edrees

    edrees Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    If the World Cup 2022 increases to 48 teams, with AFC receiving 8.5 spots, I would assume the qualification path would change from the current 3 round process.
     
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  3. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    "The 2023 AFC Asian Cup / 2022 FIFA World Cup qualifications draw for Asia will be made on April 17th at the AFC Headquarters in Kuala Lumpur."

    http://www.uaefa.ae/#/news/27546
     
  4. ChuckBlazersCat

    Tottenham Hotspur, Celtic FC, FC St. Pauli, Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 25, 2019
    Not necessarily. They can do the two-legged ties to go down from 46 to 40 and then run the 8 group stages of 5 teams each, with the top 2 advancing to 4 groups of 4, top 2 qualify for the WC and then just have the top finishing third place team go the the inter-confederational playoff.
     
  5. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    The Preliminary Round 1 draw will be made on 17th April. The FIFA rankings for March 2019 are being taken into account, with the bottom 12 teams contesting in the round in home-away fixtures.

    Seeded teams: Malaysia, Cambodia, Macau, Laos, Bhutan, Mongolia
    Unseeded teams: Bangladesh, Guam, Brunei, Timor-Leste, Pakistan, Sri Lanka
     
  6. Blastow

    Blastow Member

    Mar 19, 2010
    Kyiv, Ukraine
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    1st round (6 and 11 June 2019)

    Mongolia - Brunei
    Macau - Sri Lanka
    Laos - Bangladesh
    Malaysia - Timor-Leste
    Cambodia - Pakistan
    Bhutan - Guam
     
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  7. rooboy91

    rooboy91 Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    First-mentioned teams hosting first, I'm assuming?
     
  8. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    Yup.
     
  9. rooboy91

    rooboy91 Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Anything official on the date of the second round draw?
     
  10. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Could've/should've included all of those teams in the group stage. Pathetic.
     
  11. GenericWalmart

    GenericWalmart New Member

    West Ham United
    United States
    May 19, 2019
  12. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    [​IMG]

    Macau's 23 men squad list for the two matches against Sri Lanka. As Macau Stadium is under renovation (due to Macau Sports Bureau's stupidity), they have to play their home match at neighbouring Zhuhai Sports Centre on 6 June. The match will be free admission but tickets must be obtained beforehand from Macau FA's office.

    Hopefully they have tickets available at the stadium so Zhuhai citizens can attend as well. It must be the only time ever in Zhuhai's history that it is hosting a FIFA World Cup qualifier.
     
  13. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    FT

    Mongolia 2:0 Brunei
    Macau 1:0 Sri Lanka
     
  14. jagum

    jagum Member

    CF Montreal
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    Other results:

    Laos 0-1 Bangladesh
    Cambodia 2-0 Pakistan
    Bhutan 1-0 Guam
     
  15. Zbagint

    Zbagint New Member

    Nov 9, 2018
    Timor making Malaysia look like Barcelona. Amazing what happens to a team when they stop cheating
     
  16. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    FT: Malaysia 7:1 Timor Leste

    I guess that is rather conclusive. Malaysia can play the second match with their reserves.
     
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  17. Zbagint

    Zbagint New Member

    Nov 9, 2018
    Malaysia/Timor is really the only matchup that's already been decided. Should be some really good games on June 11
     
  18. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    Random Brazilians are no longer allowed to pop up and represent Timor-Leste anymore, unfortunately for them.

    Sri Lanka and Pakistan were unlucky not to score any goals so they are not out of this yet, while I think Guam's heat at sea level will be too much for Bhutan. I've seen it happen to them when they played in Maldives, where their players simply tailed off in the second half and conceded a ton of goals.
     
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  19. mdhm

    mdhm Member

    Southern District FC
    Hong Kong
    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Hong Kong
    Macau won the first leg at "home" (home match played in Zhuhai, China), but the Macau FA is going to withdraw the world cup qualifiers due to safety concern in Sri Lanka and the Sri Lanka FA rejected to move the 2nd leg in neutral ground, without consulting any players' opinion.

    The national team players have written the following disclaimers. They will no longer represent the national team if Macau FA does not accept their request to play the 2nd leg as scheduled.

    WHAT A SHAME FOR THE MFA OFFICIALS!

    ____
    From Macau National Team players:

    We, players of Macau National Team hereby express our feelings and requests.

    We feel that Macau Football has not been respected in previous years and finally now we have the chance to give our Macau citizens, fans, family and friends a reason to be proud of Macau National team. We are closer then ever to reach our main goal and we fought for too long to just let it slip between our hands.

    It’s not guaranteed that we will go thought to the next stage, but we want to go and fight the 90 minutes left to try and achieve our goal.

    For Macau for us and for the future generations this could be an important step ahead.

    The list of players below want to go to Sri Lanka and play the 2ng leg and demand that MFA and RAEM government authorities accepts and works on a solution to make it happen.
    If they do not accept and approve our request, the players below are as of now no longer available to represent Macau National Team.

    National Team Players:
    1.Kong Cheng Hou
    2. Nicholas Torrao
    3. Lam Ngai Tong
    4.Chan Pak chun
    5.Ho Man Fai
    6.Lei keng pan
    7.Lei Ka Him
    8.kam chi hou
    9.U wai chon
    10. Fong Chi Hang
    11.SOARES
    12.Lam ka pou
    13. Chan Man
    14. Ng Wa Keng
    15. Ng Wa Seng
    16.Ho Man Hou
    17.WONG VERNON
    18. Pang Chi Hang
    19.Ho Ka Seng
    20. Lam Ka Seng
    21.Cheong Hoi San
    22.Leong Ka Hang
    23. Filipe Duarte
    24.Lei Chi Kin

    U23 players:
    1.Sou Chit
    2.Cheng Ka Chon
    3.Wong Tek Ka
    4.Lei Hou In
    5.Jorge Marcelo Vitorino
    6.Lei Chan Tou
    7.Wan Tin Iao
    8.Tai Lok In
    9. Si Tou Seng Hang
    10.HEILONG WONG
    11.Ip Ieong

    U18 players:
    1.Lok Weng Hang
    2.chan hang kit
    3.Wong Pou Chon
    4.Cheang KA Lok
    5.KONG U CHON
    6.Sio Rong Rui
    7. Ng Chi Hou
    8. Man Chak Nam
    9.Lou Chon Hei
    10.Chan Chak Meng
    11.Ku Koi Fai
    12.Wong Weng Hei
    13.Ieong lek Hang
     
  20. mdhm

    mdhm Member

    Southern District FC
    Hong Kong
    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Hong Kong
  21. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    https://www.exmoo.com/article/11035...hOMmJEEj5Vz6ib_4srfJQr3KumjljbQmPq8_uyJLStGnw

    Macau FA's response is that they cannot obtain insurance for the players and officials so they are not sending the team. That is actually a valid reason but I am not sure they communicated it to the AFC or Sri Lanka officials. Macau FA is notorious for their lack of communications.

    I remember South China FC once had a similar problem with insurance and they got their AFC Cup match moved to a another venue as a result.
     
  22. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    So Macau have officially withdrawn, meaning Sri Lanka are most definitely through to Round 2.

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think there is something fishy going on behind the scenes? Macau FA knew they would have to travel to Sri Lanka ever since the draw, why did they wait until the last moment to kick up a fuss?
     
  23. Angsa

    Angsa Member

    Aug 26, 2008
    Hong Kong
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Even the Macau players suspect there is something fishy going on. The Macau FA chose to withhold the information about NOT traveling to Sri Lanka from the players until it was way too late for them to do something about it.

    Add to that they gave no help to Benfica de Macau any help to enter this year's AFC Cup, causing club president Duarte Alves to rant about Macau FA (https://macaudailytimes.com.mo/football-after-stunning-debut-benfica-barred-from-afc-again.html), it is quite clear they are not keen for club or country to join international football.

    Some people say China do not want Macau to play in the international arena anymore.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. (De La)Redstriker06

    May 3, 2003
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    My problem with the format is that it unnecessarily ends all competitive football for these teams way too early.

    By all means cull the worst six teams from World Cup qualification- but what is the point of shutting them out of qualifiers for the Asian Cup on the basis of two games?

    I think an Asian Nations' League is urgently needed to improve the quality of play and foster competition.

    My proposal would be to create four leagues of 10-12 teams after the Second Round of World Cup qualification is over.

    The Top 12 teams go on to play in the final phase of WCQ and the top two in each group can playoff once qualifying is over. The winner of that playoff would be winner of the Nations League.

    Here's how it would look using dates and teams from the 2018 edition. You could promote the top two in each group and relegate the bottom two (not sure relegation would be in play for League A with current schedule/format).

    Nations League Dates
    Matchday 1: September 2015
    Matchday 10: September 2017

    Start of Standalone ACQ:
    Matchday 1: October 2017 (Playoff Round)
    Matchday 2: October 2017 (Playoff Round)
    Matchday 1: November 2017
    Matchday 2: November 2017
    Matchday 3: March 2018
    Matchday 4: March 2018
    Matchday 5: May/June 2018
    Matchday 6: September 2018

    Nations League Playoffs (hosted in AC Host Country)
    October 2018

    Asian Cup Finals Draw
    October 2018

    League A/3rd Round WCQ

    Group 1
    1. Iran
    2. Korea Republic

    3. Syria
    4. Uzbekistan
    5. China
    6. Qatar

    Group 2
    1. Japan
    2. Saudi Arabia

    3. Australia
    4. UAE
    5. Iraq
    6. Thailand

    League B

    Group 1:
    1. North Korea
    2. Oman
    3. Kyrgyzstan
    4. Palestine
    5. Hong Kong
    6. Kuwait (w)


    Group 2.
    1. Jordan
    2. Lebanon
    3. Turkmenistan
    4. Vietnam
    5. Singapore
    6. Philippines

    League C:

    Group 1:
    1. Malaysia
    2. Tajikistan
    3. Maldives
    4. Guam
    5. Afghanistan
    6. India


    Group 2.
    1.Myanmar
    2. Bahrain
    3. Yemen
    4. Bangladesh
    5. Laos
    6. India


    League D:

    Group 1:
    1. Timor Leste
    2. Cambodia
    3. Bhutan
    4. Pakistan
    5. Macau

    Group 2.
    1. Indonesia
    2. Nepal
    3. Mongolia
    4. Brunei
    5. Sri Lanka
     
  25. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    That's not good. I feel for the Macau players and coaching staff. It appears that their FA has completely different aspirations to them.

    But even if they do join the Chinese league system, it doesn't necessarily mean the end of Macau FA. They can do something similar to what Brunei are doing and maintain a national team. Do China really see the Macau national team as a direct threat to their own ambitions?
     

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