News: 2022 Eastern Conference Playoff Chase

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by KCbus, Aug 13, 2022.

  1. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one plus for me is our positive goal difference. That's usually a good predictor.
     
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  2. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    We need 6 points minimum in the next 3 matches. We just can’t seem to get on a win streak.

    sad stat that after every win we have followed with a draw.
     
  3. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cincy and Miami are the only possible teams that can jump up. Toronto is done, KCbus is just very conservative with these sorts of things. TFC had to win out starting this weekend to even have half a chance, and they blew a 2-0 lead to lose 4-2 at home. They’re done.
     
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  4. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crewster point standing through Sunday:

    EAST

    Philadelphia 15
    Montreal 10
    NYC 3
    NYRB 2
    Orlando 0
    Columbus -5
    Miami -6
    New England -7
    Cincinnati -7
    Atlanta -9
    Charlotte -10
    Chicago -10
    Toronto -14
    DC -19


    WEST

    LAFC 15
    Austin 9
    Salt Lake 3
    Dallas 1
    Nashville 0
    Portland -3
    Minnesota -4
    LA Galaxy -6
    Seattle -6
    Vancouver -8
    Colorado -9
    San Jose -12
    Kansas City -12
    Houston -13
     
  5. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guilty.

    In another week or two, I’m most likely going to be wondering why the hell I missed such an easy one. I honestly don’t know why I’m hesitating here. The numbers are dire for them. I just can’t do it yet. I still think they’re the most talented of all the teams in that mix, and I’m not all that impressed with any of the others.
     
  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As teams start to become eliminated or enter "win out and get help" mode, we'll still be above the playoff line.

    So...do we get in on our own merits or do we get in "because other teams start to become eliminated" aka through the back door?

    In my book, in is in...but I think we get in via that back door with 1-2 games left.

    http://www.sportsclubstats.com/USA/Toronto.html

    We have a 47.4% chance. Four teams are under 20% and Charlotte is right at 20%.
     
  7. CBusAlex

    CBusAlex Member

    Jun 17, 2011
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Realistically, most of the teams in the giant cluster are getting no more than 10 or 11 points over the rest of the season. Whether anyone clinches a spot through their own win or through a competitor dropping points is going to be more a quirk of the schedule than anything meaningful.
     
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  8. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wednesday, 9/7
    NYC 1:1 CIN

    Points Wins GD (Games remaining, Max Points)
    PHI 60 17 +42 (4, 72)
    MTL 52 16 +8 (5, 67)
    NYRB 47 13 +9 (4, 59)
    NYC 46 13 +13 (4, 58)
    ORL 42 12 -5 (6, 60)
    CLB 40 9 +6 (6, 58)
    CIN 39 9 -1 (5, 54)
    -------------------------------
    NE 38 9 0 (5, 53)
    MIA 36 10 -11 (6, 54)
    TOR 34 9 -6 (4, 46)
    ATL 33 8 -7 (5, 48)
    CHA 32 10 -10 (6, 50)
    CHI 32 8 -10 (5, 47)
    DC 26 7 -27 (5, 41)

    Cincy getting a point at the champs... a month ago, I would have said that was a great point for them. The way things are going for NYC, I wonder if they should be disappointed. Regardless, they now have the same number of games played as NE, and that point puts them above the Revs and in the #7 spot. Although Miami still has an extra match to play and winning it would level them with Cincinnati points-wise.
     
  9. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Cincinnati's" "goal" in that game was as good of an indictment against Modern Football as you'll ever find.
     
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  10. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard agree.
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Agreed, though I've seen even worse back passes where the keeper misplays the ball. Martins for FCC man of the match, scoring their only goal and picking up a red card. VAR did save him from the PK decision though.
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t know. That’s an embarrassing blunder to be sure. But I keep hearing about what a world class goalkeeper Sean Johnson is. Where was he? I mean it’s one thing to be off your line, but if the ball is on the right side of the field, shouldn’t you be shading that direction a little bit? Or at least be somewhere central? He was so far off to the left side that he wasn’t even inside the left post. Was he distracted by a bumblebee? Was there a hot chick in the stand he had his eyes on?

    Certainly not a good back pass to make blind, but man. Pay attention.
     
  13. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    Anyone saying Johnson is world class doesn't know much about GK'ing. He wasn't too far out of position in my mind shading a bit to open space to provide an option. Purely on the defender there.
     
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  14. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forget the playoffs, we're within striking distance of an MLS record: most ties in a season!

    We just need five more to match the record. Six give us the top spot.

    Let's go, Crew!
     
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  15. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #65 ZipSix, Sep 8, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2022
    This is the recognition we deserve. Think of the chaos: half of us bemoaning the lack of wins, half of us pointing at how hard to beat we are.
     
  16. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Root for chaos!
     
  17. TRUJDUB21

    TRUJDUB21 Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Sep 28, 2021
    We need back to back wins asap
     
  18. OzweegoSC

    OzweegoSC Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    CMH
    I am usually an Arace fan but this is not his best work.

    https://www.dispatch.com/story/spor...ey-miss-out-on-mls-playoffs-draw/66881728007/

    Below the Crew, over the same span, eighth-place New England (1.4), ninth-place Miami (1.5) and tenth-place Miami (1.5) have averaged more points.

    Here’s a decent bet: New England and Toronto will be above the playoff bar, and the Crew and Cincy will be below it, after Decision Day, Sunday, Oct. 9, when the Crew play at Orlando. I’d say the odds are better than 50-50.
     
  19. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? Because he doesn’t think the team will make the playoffs?
     
  20. OzweegoSC

    OzweegoSC Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    CMH
    Is Miami in both 9th and 10th place? Hasn't Toronto all but been eliminated? Those are the reasons.
     
  21. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of shade being thrown in that article. I love to see it.
     
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  22. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aside from FC Miami and Miami United being in the league (who knew?) I don't have a lot of issues with opinions he put forth in the article. We have been hard to beat but we've been far from good. Other teams in our vicinity in the table are playing better ball and earning more points over the last stretch of games than we have. At some point we will have to start playing well and winning games.

    We've left a lot of point on the table and we're at a point where being hard to beat and draws are not going to be enough to keep us above the line. One loss in the last 10 sounds good, but 1.3 ppg isn't playoff caliber. Playoff contenders have to be able to win 2 in a row at some point as well.
     
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  23. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the tweet.
     
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  24. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montreal 2-2 Columbus

    Points Wins GD (Games remaining, Max Points)
    PHI 60 17 +42 (4, 72)
    MTL 53 16 +8 (4, 65)
    NYRB 47 13 +9 (4, 59)
    NYC 46 13 +13 (4, 58)
    ORL 42 12 -5 (6, 60)
    CLB 41 9 +6 (5, 56)
    CIN 39 9 -1 (5, 54)
    -------------------------------
    NE 38 9 0 (5, 53)
    MIA 36 10 -11 (6, 54)
    TOR 34 9 -6 (4, 46)
    ATL 33 8 -7 (5, 48)
    CHA 32 10 -10 (6, 50)
    CHI 32 8 -10 (5, 47)
    DC 26 7 -27 (5, 41)

    Last year Red Bulls finished 7th with 48 points. Let’s assume that is the line again this year.

    Philly and Montreal are already qualified. RBNY and NYCFC only need 1 and 2 points respectively to hit 48 points, let’s say they’re in.

    Points per game this season (points per game required to hit 48 points rest of season):

    5) Orlando - 1.50 (1.00)

    6) Columbus - 1.41 (1.40)

    7) Cincinnati - 1.34 (1.80)

    8) New England - 1.31 (2.00)

    9) Miami - 1.28 (2.00)

    10) Toronto - 1.13 (3.50)

    11) Atlanta - 1.13 (3.00)

    Toronto is mathematically out if the line is 48 points, and Atlanta needs to be perfect, so they’re basically out.

    Miami and New England need to almost double their point production, that’s tough.

    Cincy needs to up their form as well, but are by default in right now.

    Crew needs to keep their current form of constant draws and the odd win against non-playoff teams to get in.

    Orlando is basically in barring a total collapse.
     
  25. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    We are.
     

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