News: 2022 - DCU Club Discussion and Analysis

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  1. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Posting here since it'll be more visible than in the Alumni Forum, but Ian Harkes was named Dundee United's player of the year for 2021-22.

     
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  2. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had his moments at DCU, but his level of success in SFC would seem to indicate that it's a step down from MLS. Opinions?
     
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  3. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or he grew and improved. SPL top teams compete in Champions and Europa and the middle teams are good. The bottom teams are worse than our middle teams but their top teams would beat ours more often than not.
     
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  4. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Like all European soccer, it's not a sport, it's an economic model. The top two teams are far better than anything in MLS, everybody else is unwatchable garbage.
     
  5. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Any young player who came up under Olsen cannot be comparatively rated. Olsen was a death ray to the development of young players.
     
  6. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was 22 when he started in 2017 and played 33 games for us. He didn't come up under Olsen.
     
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  7. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    His first pro gig was under Olsen. DCU declined his option and he went to Scotland on a free.
     
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  8. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first release of the MLS salary chart for the year is out.

    Some big notes for DC:

    Taxi is on $1.6M base salary, $1.646M total compensation. This might be because he wasn't signed for the full season, since reports were he is the highest paid player on the team.

    Ola Kamara is up to $1.5M base, $1.52M total. This tracks with a comment Goff made last year that his $400k salary listed last year was way too low.

    Andy Najar's raise was up to $375k.

    Chris Durkin is at $400k, $445k total.

    DC's salary total is $11,823,643; total compensation is $12,483,317.

    Griffin Yow DC United F $130,000.00 $136,118.00
    Brad Smith DC United D $550,000.00 $591,250.00
    Kimarni Smith DC United M-F $85,444.00 $85,444.00
    Drew Skundrich DC United M $89,513.00 $89,513.00
    Hayden Sargis DC United D $65,500.00 $65,500.00
    Gaoussou Samake DC United D-M $84,000.00 $84,000.00
    Rafael Romo DC United GK $250,000.00 $285,833.00
    Nigel Robertha DC United F $550,000.00 $622,406.00
    Adrien Pérez DC United F $89,513.00 $89,513.00
    Donovan Pines DC United D $150,000.00 $152,000.00
    Chris Odoi-Atsem DC United D $140,000.00 $151,000.00
    Moses Nyeman DC United M $89,716.00 $92,502.00
    Andy Najar DC United D $375,000.00 $375,000.00
    Theodore Ku-DiPietro DC United M $65,500.00 $65,500.00
    Jon Kempin DC United GK $84,000.00 $84,000.00
    Ola Kamara DC United F $1,500,000.00 $1,520,000.00
    Jackson Hopkins DC United M $65,500.00 $65,833.00
    Brendan Hines-Ike DC United D $375,000.00 $417,917.00
    Bill Hamid DC United GK $700,000.00 $700,000.00
    Julian Gressel DC United M $914,000.00 $969,781.00
    Jacob Greene DC United D-M $85,444.00 $88,444.00
    Jeremy Garay DC United M $65,500.00 $69,550.00
    Taxiarchis Fountas DC United F $1,600,000.00 $1,646,000.00
    Edison Flores DC United M-F $1,600,000.00 $1,733,000.00
    Michael Estrada DC United F $300,000.00 $425,700.00
    Chris Durkin DC United M $400,000.00 $445,000.00
    Sofiane Djeffal DC United M $65,500.00 $65,500.00
    Russell Canouse DC United M $515,000.00 $515,000.00
    Steven Birnbaum DC United D $750,000.00 $762,500.00
    Tony Alfaro DC United D $89,513.00 $89,513.00
     
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  9. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of note on some players who left DCU in the offseason:

    Paul Arriola got a small raise to $1.1M.

    Felipe took another paycut, and is down to $84,000 with Austin.

    Junior Moreno got a pretty good raise, and is at $325,000 with Cincy.

    Yordy Reyna is at $797,500 with Charlotte (yikes!). Joseph Mora is at $200,000.
     
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  10. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Edison Flores DC United M-F $1,600,000.00 $1,733,000.00


    I could use 1.6 million and I am just as good as he is, at age 53.
     
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  11. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way, Goff is reporting that Flores's last two years on his contract are both option years, and United are unlikely to pick up those options.
     
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  12. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    I can't think of too many players (although I am sure someone will be glad to lay them all out for me) who DCU let go, who went on to any great success.

    PK left on a free, but was declining deals and went on the be Hearts' captain in his second year before the coach got canned he got shuffled out the door, not fitting the system.
    Thank god!
     
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  13. pats1237

    pats1237 Member

    Oct 28, 2006
    The District
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news but still a $5 million transfer fee we won't be recuperating anything from.
     
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  14. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I’m sure we will replace him with someone of the highest quality.
     
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  15. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The sarcasm is almost LITERALLY dripping from this statement.
     
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  16. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Nigel Robertha better be picking up group meal tabs on the road.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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  17. Petworth Posse

    Feb 24, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    How about Hopkins earning $65K. I guess that's league minimum. But when I was 17 I worked Jerry's Sub shop and took home maybe $10K.
     
  18. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    Home grown's are where its at, just like with your draft picks in the NFL. While NFL guys obviously make more, if your first rounder plays like a first rounder, they're typically playing like a free agent you've have signed for more money and in MLS the real bonus kicks in when you pay your homegrown in future contracts because you get a discount on the cap charge.

    Does anyone know if the homegrown cap benefits extend to another team signing your home grown player since it's a single entity? And does that cap relief extend past their first contract with their club?

    And damn, Felipe wasn't worth 85 grand to us? That seems like a poor choice given what he brought to the locker room alone with all the young guys coming up. Mora at 200k seems like a steal for a team with a typical 4 back setup. Moreno isn't too pricey at 325 either. I hope Yordy Reyna bought his agent Rolex or something. I feel like 800k is several hundred grand more than he's worth.
     
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    So DCU threw away the Open Cup match because of fixture congestion and then put out THAT lineup for an MLS game at home?

    Fire Ashton.
     
  20. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He threw away last night's game because it's supposed to be in the 90s this weekend. I wonder what his future excuses for tanking will be? Are they going for the #1 Super Draft Pick? :rolleyes:
     
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  21. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC United are asking MLS to push kickoff time of Saturday's match back from 4 PM due to the temperatures, citing fan and player safety as the reason.
     
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  22. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per:



    (At least that us where I read it)
     
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  23. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's where I read it, too.
     
  24. DangerMouse37

    DangerMouse37 Member+

    Jan 22, 2004
    WDC / Barra
    So they're concerned that fans will have a bad time or that there will be bad soccer played or the players will have to sweat a lot? Just checking.
     
  25. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure if this is a serious question or not.
     

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