2022- Anrie Chase | 2021-24 Hiroki Ito | 2019-23 Wataru Endo @ VfB Stuttgart (GER)

Discussion in 'Japanese Abroad' started by Samurai Warrior, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    Oh come on stats again, do you watch football from fm and livescore? Easy counter logic: his stats were good because he only played against lesser team, he was sold because he was not good enough.

    Back to Endo: the "here we go" guy already said it so things may be concluded. If Liverpool still continues with 3 MFs formations, maybe Endo has a chance to be starter after some games since Kloop would realize both McAllister and Szoboszlai are not DM and it's waste of talent to play them there.
     
  2. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    #177 NaohiroTakahara, Aug 17, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2023
    Minamino scored against Arsenal 2 times, scored against Leicester City, scored against Norwich 2 times, scored against Brendford in his last season for the reds. There were or was all Premiere League Teams, so not what I called very lesser Teams.

    And for the cup, yeah there were some lesser teams but other players on the pitch from Liverpool didnt scored that much like him. And to say its not good from him to be a key factor to win both cups is really unfair for him.

    Minamino was no dissapointement. You wanted him to be one of the best player in the world which he wasnt able to. Thats not a shame. But he was a very good super sub.

    Liverpool sold Minamino cause he wants to leave and play more and Liverpool and Klopp dont want to denie him that.

    That Minamino leave was one of the reasons Liverpool were struggling last season cause they miss his super sub goals.

    And again these stats are very important, please dont talk like I am stupid @ Mushu. Stats are very important in football.Best clinical finishing in 24 games stands not for nothing. And no, I watch almost every game from Minamino.

    Its easy to say Minamino is a flop but he wasnt. He was not a super sucess but a good super sub and thats okay in a team like that.

    55 games and 17 scorer points is anything but not bad. And by they way, 13 of these scorerpoints were against Premiere League teams.
     
  3. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    My gosh

    OK fine, I stop here.
     
  4. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    #179 NaohiroTakahara, Aug 17, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2023
    You really dont think Liverpool misses Minaminos 10 goals as a super sub last season?

    I only say that Minamino was one of the reasons, whats wrong with it? Not that he was the main reason.

    Minamino was Liverpools best sub the last years together wie Origi and they both leave. You don't think this can be a reason for Liverpools Problems together with other stuff that they dont have enough energy from the bench?

    And please dont act so arrogant, I get much energy in my posts, much time and I am always, always very kind and friendly.

    You can have another opinion, thats okay. But my posts have a very good groundbase, its not coming from nowhere what I post and my only wish is that you respect it for what it is.
     
  5. datschge

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  6. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Endo could have gotten himself a club that's a slight bit below Liverpool, in order to get more minutes. Oh, well. I hope Reds improve their treatment of Japanese players.
     
  7. NaohiroTakahara

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    Nov 12, 2013
  8. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Wonderful assist by Ito.
     
  9. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Hiroki today won 100% of his duells, this guy is pure class.
     
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  10. poyotaryo

    poyotaryo Member

    Brazil
    Feb 14, 2020
    Brussels, Belgium
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Looks like Ito chances to join Ajax are over as the club is finalizing an offer for defenser Avila from Antwerp. Stuttgart rejected two offers, and somehow, Endo transfer to Liverpool killed Ito's opportunity to leave the club as they were no more in need of money.

    Not such a bad thing though, I'd love him to join a Premier League side instead, when his time will come.
     
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  11. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    + also Ajax get those CB guy from the 2nd Bundesliga side St. Pauli which was a starter the first games

    And Stuttgarts other CB Mavropanos is close to go to the PL.

    Also think so, that Ito is good where he is and maybe go to the PL or something like that.
     
  12. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Destroyed tonight by Leipzig.
     
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  13. poyotaryo

    poyotaryo Member

    Brazil
    Feb 14, 2020
    Brussels, Belgium
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Forgot Haraguchi had signed at Stuttgart. I kinda never liked this player and never understood how we got so many caps with JNT but was glad he found a spot at Union Berlin, good team with nice atmosphere for him.

    Btw, Ito signed a contract extension until 2027.
    Usually, this is the kind of things that happen when the club wants to reward a player with $$$ for staying despite many offers, and an exit opportunity for next year.
     
  14. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    And there it is! Endo starts.
     
  15. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
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    You are in the wrong thread again
     
  16. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    OMG i am so stupid, sorry ^^. My brain is crazy cause i need to get used that Endo is in Liverpool.
     
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  17. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Next Assist from Ito.
     
  18. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Ito is also injured till end of Dezember.

    Unbelieavable, almost 50% of the JNT is injured more or less before the Asia Cup.
     
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  19. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Hiroki Ito is rewarded as the 4th best LWB of the Bundesliga. He is pure class.

    IMG_20240105_141242.jpg
     
  20. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Then all he has to do is play again
     
  21. NaohiroTakahara

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    Nov 12, 2013
    I hope he is fit. Like I said before. Ito is maybe Japans best defender of all history together with Tomiyasu. Those 2 are very strong.

    Ito - Tomiyasu - Itakura - Sugawara

    Those backline is deadly when all is fit. When you add a Endo and Morita in front you really have some defensive powerhouse there, which some other nations can dream about.
     
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  22. NaohiroTakahara

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    Nov 12, 2013
    Stuttgart is in awesome form and Ito is getting better and better, he is cleary one of the best defenders in the Bundesliga in the CB and LB position. He plays a really good season.

    One of the most important things for Moriyasu is to fix the difference between Itos game for JNT and Stuttgart.

    By the way Anrie Chase is here and there on the bench for the first team lately. Stuttgart is thinking high of him.
     
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  23. NaohiroTakahara

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    Nov 12, 2013
    #198 NaohiroTakahara, Mar 11, 2024
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2024
    By the way Ito is again second best CB and second best LB of the hole Bundesliga for now. Crazy stats and ratings. It must be possible to tranform that into the JNT

    1-2 years again on this level and he will play at a top club as a starter. He can become the next big thing. forget how young he still is. Hes 24.
     
  24. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I dont deny it or nothing
    But everytime ive seen him hes just been average.
     
  25. NaohiroTakahara

    NaohiroTakahara Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    For Japan thats more or less true but he is a real beast and full of quality. It depends more on Moriyasus tactics.
     

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