2022/26 Junya Ito @ Stade de Reims (FRA)

Discussion in 'Japanese Abroad' started by Dax, Jul 30, 2022.

  1. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
     
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  2. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Interesting step.
     
  3. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Good move, but a much more difficult environment. Let's see if he will thrive like in Berugi.
     
  4. poyotaryo

    poyotaryo New Member

    Brazil
    Feb 14, 2020
    Brussels, Belgium
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #4 poyotaryo, Jul 30, 2022
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2022
    I really don't understand this move.

    In Genk he could play Europe, even fight for the title. Two years ago he could have been champion. He leaves a team and a league where he is known and appreciated, to, I must agree, a better league but overall a team that just aims to avoid relegation. How could this be an interesting step?

    Rennes would have been a nice move, but Reims is really really questionnable. Does he share the same agent with Nakajima?

    Ok, Reims used to be a good team decades ago, but it is also the region of champagne. Is a lot of money involved, is he already preparing the life after football? I don't get it, man... This move is such a pity to me. He was much appreciated in Belgium
     
  5. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They finished 12 last season. Not a top team but. Way head of relegation.
    Its a better league for sure and a step up so why is it not interesting.
    He has playing in Europe with Genk now a couple of times but what does that give him? Not so much. You cant stay in minor leagues just because you are appreciated. Well you can if you want to halt your career.
     
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  6. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Things are he needed the best team to prepare for WC. If this team give him more minutes and better opponents than the previous it's fine.
     
  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
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    Genk wasn't going to play for anything this season and they were extremely disappointing in the last one, so no Europe.
    At 29 year old it was definitely about time to play in a more serious league.
     
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  8. poyotaryo

    poyotaryo New Member

    Brazil
    Feb 14, 2020
    Brussels, Belgium
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I agree he had to try a better league.

    But this transfer, end of july, at the beginning of the new season, meaning no preparation with his new team, new environment with another mentality (flemish and german cultures suit more to japanese people imo) and all this 4 months ahead of the World Cup... In a club only struggling to maintain to the top.

    Come on lads, let's be serious. It really is a disappointing move both on the timing and the destination. Even french media are surprised by this move.

    Reims only had to activate his release clause for 10M€. Any interested club could have done the same, with no need to negociate with Genk. As easily. One more time in japanese football, a poor job made by his agent.

    Nakata, Inamoto, Honda, Okazaki, Kagawa, Kawashima, Shibasaki, Nakajima, Kubo and countless others... And now Ito. I don't know about you guys but I am tired of witnessing poor career decisions due to agents badly defending japanese players interests.
     
  9. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I agree with the last part I do. But lets just wait and see.
     
  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Oh sure if you put it like that, a player like Ito should've left probably last season already. And you're spot on, his agent is a niche one and there's a good reason for that. So yes, it could've been better.
    But, I still think this is better than staying in Genk.
     
  11. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Japanese footballers have quite often japanese agents?
    Some "big name" has foreigner agent?
     
  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Let's not derail the thread but, yes, the overwhelming majority have a japanese agent.
    There are instances of international group like Base Soccer (now CAA Base) which follow for example Itakura, that are international groups, but even among the group the person following the player is a japanese.
    You can just look up for players agents on Transfermarkt yourself.
     
  13. poyotaryo

    poyotaryo New Member

    Brazil
    Feb 14, 2020
    Brussels, Belgium
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah mostly all of them, and this is the "problem", I mean they lack contacts in Europe and I guess the cultural differences and the language bareer doesn't help.

    I have two friends that are working as football agents in Belgium and France and from what they told me, dealing with St Trond/St Truiden is very complicated.

    And well, when a japanese player finds an european agent, Nakajima for instance, they just get screwed. I can't wait for the next generation to really open doors and contacts to european football.
     
  14. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Back on thread: will miss the first 2-3 games of the season, injury against Sassuolo.
     
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  15. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Nice start.
     
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