2022-2023 UEFA Referee Discussion [R]

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  1. MassachusettsRef

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    Apr 30, 2001
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    #1 MassachusettsRef, Jun 2, 2022
    This thread should take us through the UEFA Nations League, all UEFA club cup and national team competitions, and any domestic matches in Europe from leagues or countries that don't get their own threads.
     
  2. MassachusettsRef

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    #2 MassachusettsRef, Jun 2, 2022
    Select appointments from Nations League:

    Spain : Portugal - OLIVER (ENG)
    Czech Republic : Switzerland - SIEBERT (GER)
    Northern Ireland : Greece - LAMBRECHTS (BEL)
    Slovenia : Sweden - BUQUET (FRA)
    Israel : Iceland - TREIMANIS (LVA)
    Serbia : Norway - RACZKOWSKI (POL)
    France : Denmark - ZWAYER (GER)
    Belgium : Netherlands - SANCHEZ MARTINEZ (ESP)
    Croatia : Austria - KAVANAGH (ENG)
    Belarus : Slovakia - FRAPPART (FRA)
    Hungary : England - DIAS SOARES (POR)
    Armenia : Republic of Ireland - PETRESCU (ROU)
    Finland : Bosnia-Herzegovina - WALSH (SCO)
    Italy : Germany - JOVANOVIC (SRB)
    Montenegro : Romania - EKBERG (SWE)

    Lambrechts is allegedly a name to watch and apparently had a very good season in Belgium.

    Spain's theoretical #4 having Belgium-Netherlands is something (though I suppose he's the inherent #2 by the end of this season, if not earlier). Kavanagh getting a League A match is also noteworthy in that regard. Tests for the next steps/stages of their UEFA careers, I would say.

    Jovanovic confirms his spot as someone who will likely get a few big matches this season as we progress toward EURO 2024.

    Frappart in League C has to be noteworthy, given some of the names in League A and B and her status now as a World Cup official.

    Petrescu might be a name to watch if Hategan is sidelined for most of the season.
     
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  3. Mikael_Referee

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    #3 Mikael_Referee, Jun 2, 2022
    I can't say whether he had a good season in Belgium or not but Lambrechts is an extremely overrated referee in my opinion. There are many better Belgian FIFAs than him! I like Petrescu though, he has a nice style. With Vassáras (head of Romania's refereeing who has a lot of pull with UEFA/Rosetti) behind him, I guess we can expect him in Elite one day. Sánchez M. has a strong (if slightly excitable) personality and is a regular on Clásicos and other such top matches in Spain, so he should have no problems on his match. Just like Kavanagh, right? :D
     
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  4. code1390

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    #4 code1390, Jun 2, 2022
  5. gaolin

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    Apr 21, 2019
    #5 gaolin, Jun 2, 2022
    Can someone list the top 5 Spanish referees? I am curious to see.
     
  6. frankieboylampard

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    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #6 frankieboylampard, Jun 2, 2022
    mateu lahoz
    Del cerro grande
    Gil manzano
    Jose Sanchez
    Jose montero
    Alejandro Hernandez

    probably the top Spanish officials. Left off a few names I didn’t recognize and new additions.
     
  7. soccerref69420

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    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
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    #7 soccerref69420, Jun 2, 2022
    8 cautions in the Spain/Portugal match I see. Now I have to watch it. Must have been a Michael Oliver master class.
     
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  8. soccerref69420

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    Mar 14, 2020
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    #8 soccerref69420, Jun 2, 2022
    At the 17:30 mark, the AR called offside and waved his left hand back and forth in front of his flag to show that the player came from an offside position to receive the ball "onside". I didn't know that's a legit hand signal, I thought only we grassroots peons used it.
     
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  9. Pittsburgh Ref

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    #9 Pittsburgh Ref, Jun 3, 2022
    Pennsylvania will next year issue ARs a second flag, to allow semaphore explanation of contentious or esoteric calls. Look for the "skirt" signal to manifest as a fan-dance.
     
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  10. MassachusettsRef

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    #10 MassachusettsRef, Jun 3, 2022
    Select MD2:

    Sweden : Norway - TAYLOR (ENG)
    Bulgaria : Georgia - MARESCA (ITA)
    Portugal : Switzerland - GRINFEELD (ISR)
    Czech Republic : Spain - LETEXIER (FRA)
    Serbia : Slovenia - GIL MANZANO (ESP)
    Kosovo : Greece - BEATON (SCO)
    Iceland : Albania - PAWSON (ENG)
    Croatia : France - GUIDA (FRA)
    Austria : Denmark - COLLUM (SCO)


    And Mateu Lahoz is confirmed for Wales-Ukraine. Cerro Grande is his fourth official. Ouch.
     
  11. Orange14

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    Apr 27, 2007
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    #11 Orange14, Jun 3, 2022
    Excellent use of VAR to take away a Dutch PK against Belgium. Call on the field by Sanchez Martinez was a hand ball but he was screened and just saw an upraised arm. Ball went off the Belgium player's face. Took all of 10 seconds to get the right call. Well done!!
     
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  12. Pierre Head

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    Dec 24, 2005
    #12 Pierre Head, Jun 3, 2022
    A lot of these Nations League matches are being shown on the new free streaming service ViX. In Spanish of course. Also they have several games available for delayed showings on demand!

    Sadly Fox sports has the rights in English and only show a few matches on cable service, including some obscure ones for some reason.

    PH
     
  13. balu

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    #13 balu, Jun 4, 2022
    And a brutally twisted wink ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  14. code1390

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    #14 code1390, Jun 4, 2022
    I'll be curious to see if Sanchez Martinez can adapt his style from his tight/card happy La Liga standard to more laid back/man management UEFA style. Just a quick look at this CL and EL games this past season he had games with 6, 7, and 8 cards with 35 to 40 fouls called multiple times. Now maybe those cards were all needed, but I'm not sure his style will let him rise to the top of the elite.
     
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  15. Orange14

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    #15 Orange14, Jun 4, 2022
    He certainly was not whistle happy yesterday. I thought he had a decent match.
     
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  16. code1390

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    #16 code1390, Jun 4, 2022
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  17. Pierre Head

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    Dec 24, 2005
    #17 Pierre Head, Jun 4, 2022
    Yup.
    They have to learn the difference between league play with familiar referees
    and internationals.
    This is not getting given against Chelsea!

    PH
     
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  18. voiceoflg

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    #18 voiceoflg, Jun 5, 2022
    Wales-Ukraine. An early YC to Wales. Ukraine tries to take a quick kick. It is ALWAYS a ceremonial restart when a booking occurs, correct?
     
  19. code1390

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    #19 code1390, Jun 5, 2022
    Yeah unless you're a Premier League ref....
     
  20. code1390

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    #20 code1390, Jun 5, 2022
    Interesting pk check in the 41st minute. Feels like it gets sent down in La Liga but not at the FIFA level.
     
  21. code1390

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    #21 code1390, Jun 5, 2022
  22. Orange14

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    #22 Orange14, Jun 5, 2022
    Hard to tell except that Yarmelenko was smiling after the no call. He would looked aggrieved if it was a true penalty.
     
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  23. Pierre Head

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    Dec 24, 2005
    #23 Pierre Head, Jun 5, 2022
    Anyone else fed up of listening to Twellman pronounce "YOO crane?" :mad:

    PH
     
  24. socal lurker

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    #24 socal lurker, Jun 5, 2022
    Not any more. Changed in the last couple of years:

    Delaying the restart of play to show a card

    Once the referee has decided to caution or send off a player, play must not be restarted until the sanction has been administered, unless the non-offending team takes a quick free kick, has a clear goal-scoring opportunity and the referee has not started the disciplinary sanction procedure. The sanction is administered at the next stoppage; if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned; if the offence interfered with or stopped a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.
    ​
    I didn't see that part of the game, but I presume the R either had already started the discipline process or did not believe there was a clear goal scoring opportunity when he pulled it back.
     
  25. socal lurker

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    #25 socal lurker, Jun 5, 2022
    Nice to see there was actually added time for the wasted time during added time.
     
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