2021 U17 World Cup Cycle

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by David Kerr, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    For those wondering, he is a 9 and he is by far the best dual nat and currently abroad player we have for the 04-05 u17 cycle. Unless Dantouma Toure learns the game of soccer and cleans up his first touch Sanogo should be our locked in starter.

    Also we may not even get Dantouma Toure as we don't know if he's even age eligible as there have been some serious rumors that his age ranges from an 04 all the way to an 01. Apparently coaches in Europe laughed at him when he told them he was born in 2004.
     
  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I know Toure’s age is widely discussed, but I don’t know if there’s actually any instance where USSF has fielded an ineligible player. This is not an area where I’d go against their understanding. He missed some time due to injury, but otherwise the federation seems to rate the kid. He was even in an ‘03 camp 1.5 years ago, and they listed him as an ‘04.

    There is, of course, a chance he may be found to be ineligible. Sometimes these African born players aren’t even trying to cheat. The poor record keeping in certain parts of the continent leads to some instances where the players don’t know their true age, but I think we should use the federation’s understanding until there’s reason to think differently. I’m sure they’ve properly vetted the situation to the best of their capability.
     
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  3. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Nemo, Koroma, ADU? Just give the federation a chance not to be caught and they'll cheat.
     
  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    None of those players were ever eventually found to be ineligible for the age groups they played in or older than stated, despite the speculation.
     
  5. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Exactly. The federation knew that nobody would try to catch them.
     
  6. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    I’m hoping that this week’s Winter Showcase (AKA DA Cup round 2) will be scouted for the best 2004s in the country. I would love to see the player pool expand from the 2004s that played in the U-15s CONCACAF competition this summer. If the rumor of 2004 Nike Friendlies at the beginning of the year is true, these guys should be evaluated head to head here.

    Dropping one name, I know that Evan Rotundo played for the San Diego Surf U-19s in qualifiers. Both U-17 and U-19 Surf teams are in Florida, so it will be interesting to see which team he will play for.
     
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  7. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    I've talked to Dom, Evan is expected to be with the 19's. Unless they are injured, in europe, or with Mexico all the big prospects will be at this showcase
     
  8. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    For those wondering, Evan started and scored for the San Diego Surf u19's today. Another eventful showcase performance was a 2004 Pearse O'Brien who started and scored against the NYRB 19's. He was the best of two 2004's out there... the other was Dantouma Toure who every single person who cares about following the development of 15 year old's know about.
     
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  9. watke

    watke Member

    United States
    May 9, 2019
    Here are some clips of possibly relevant players to cycle from the FCD/Union u17 Winter Cup game. Quinn Sullivan had a difficult game, but remains my favorite 04 player to watch. Levi Stephens had some rough moments. Should have done a Ty Reynolds but forgot he was mentioned here. I didn't watch him closely due to comp making process but he had some good moments IRC. Carrera was good too but GK comps are boring. Please send requests

    Jonathan Dadzie https://streamable.com/rbi7t
    Jordan Jones (05) https://streamable.com/a3nou
    Quinn Sullivan https://streamable.com/hyokp
    Levi Stephens https://streamable.com/p9979
    Nelson Pierre (05) https://streamable.com/8l3jh
     
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  10. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Aronson and Sealy, please. I've watched about half of the minutes, but Aronson looked as good as Sullivan and Sealy was a mixed package, but somehow the most impactful player on his team.
     
  11. watke

    watke Member

    United States
    May 9, 2019
    Alas they are not eligible for the 2021 u17 WC. No doubt video of them would be good to have in another thread
     
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  12. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Assuming they have a camp in January if everyone is healthy what's the first choice 11? With guys like Brandon Craig and Zac Booth moving positions as showed in the showcase I imagine that it is a little different.
     
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  13. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Personally my 11 is
    Slonina
    Reynolds-Leone-Craig-Clarke
    Hot-Pukstas (dual 8's, not too confident on any of the 6's)
    Rotundo
    Sullivan-Sanogo-Torres

    Fede Oliva or Osvaldo Cisneros could also start on the wings for this team as they're both quality players. Dantouma Toure is another guy who I don't view as a starter and rate long term but would not be mad if he was there because at this level I think he can help win games.
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Now 11G, 3A in 17 games playing up a year in the U-17 Bundesliga. He's not yet eligible for Germany, only US and Ivory Coast right now. USSF didn't bring Malik Tillman in early enough. Only one camp, and then he left for the German setup. We don't want that to happen with Sanogo.
     
  15. Looks like Wicky is taking over the Chicago Fire.
     
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  16. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So .... the only coach willing to live in Chicago full time to coach a youth level nats team just left for the pro team in ... Chicago? Can't make this stuff up.
     
  17. Wicky and Chicago's recently hired Technical Director Georg Heitz worked together many years at FC Basel. From the moment Heitz was rumored Wicky looked to be the obvious choice for coach.
     
  18. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m done with Earnie and The Berhalters, never want them managing an organization again.
     
  19. Duncan Edwards i miss u

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    :mad:The state of this dysfunction organization.:ROFLMAO:
     
  20. Dylan Fisher

    Dylan Fisher Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Apr 12, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
  22. watke

    watke Member

    United States
    May 9, 2019
    UEFA Development Tournament
    St. George's Park, UK
    Games on Feb 19, 21, 24
     
  23. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    From what i know Rotundo and now obviously Oliva are on the roster, an early shocking omission is Kenan Hot.
     
  24. watke

    watke Member

    United States
    May 9, 2019
    GA Cup qualifying runs February 12 to 17. This camp opens Feb 15. Getting a sense this could be a heavily Europe based group of players.
     
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  25. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member

    Liverpool
    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Maybe, I have heard that Allan Rodriguez, Gabe Slonina, and Dantouma Toure are on the roster too.
     
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