08/13/21 San Jose Earthquakes vs Vancouver Whitecaps PayPal Park (10:30PM ET) REF: Tim Ford AR1: Apolinar Mariscal AR2: Diego Blas 4TH: Elijio Arreguin VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero AVAR: TJ Zablocki 08/14/21 Minnesota United vs LA Galaxy Allianz Field (6PM ET) REF: Joe Dickerson AR1: Adam Garner AR2: Cory Richardson 4TH: Fotis Bazakos VAR: Guido Gonzales Jr AVAR: Jeff Muschik CF Montréal vs New York Red Bulls Stade Saputo (8PM ET) REF: Allen Chapman AR1: Micheal Barwegen AR2: Lyes Arfa 4TH: Silviu Petrescu VAR: Carol Anne Chenard AVAR: Adam Wienckowski New York City FC vs Inter Miami CF Red Bull Arena (8PM ET) REF: Alan Kelly AR1: Jeremy Kieso AR2: Ryan Graves 4TH: Gjovalin Bori VAR: Ramy Touchan AVAR: Tom Supple Toronto FC vs New England Revolution BMO Field (8PM ET) REF: Rubiel Vazquez AR1: Logan Brown AR2: Gianni Facchini 4TH: Fabrizio Stasolla VAR: Geoff Gamble AVAR: Philippe Briere FC Dallas vs Sporting Kansas City Toyota Stadium (8:30PM ET) REF: Armando Villarreal AR1: Jeffrey Greeson AR2: Eric Weisbrod 4TH: JC Griggs VAR: Alejandro Mariscal AVAR: Jonathan Johnson Houston Dynamo vs Colorado Rapids BBVA Stadium (8:30PM ET) REF: Rosendo Mendoza AR1: Claudiu Badea AR2: Matthew Nelson 4TH: Robert Sibiga VAR: Kevin Stott AVAR: Fabio Tovar Real Salt Lake vs Austin FC Rio Tinto Stadium (10PM ET) REF: Dave Gantar AR1: Andrew Bigelow AR2: Corey Rockwell 4TH: Alyssa Nichols VAR: Victor Rivas AVAR: Chantal Boudreau
Was at MN-LA. I thought Dickerson was solid. Wasn’t the toughest game by MLS standards but he certainly seemed in control. LA GK was spectacular. Amazing to watch.
PK given at the end of the 4th minute of 3 minutes of stoppage in the first half of HOU-COL. Stone cold penalty but even before it happened I was starting to raise my eyebrow at how much extra time was being given for Houston to finish its attack...
The handball was for the ball hitting an arm as he slid. It could be argued that the position of his arm was ‘a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation.’ So, he didn’t make his body unnaturally bigger.
I don't think so. As far as I'm aware, the instruction remains that a defender takes a risk by having their arm extended laterally from their body while sliding, even if that specific language has been replaced. He doesn't have to have his arm out that far when he slides. He's not justified in creating this unnatural barrier for the ball because he's falling and his arm is supporting his body or anything like that, at least in my opinion.
For Montreal's 2nd PK attempt in the stoppage of FT -- did the PK taker stop? Wouldn't that be a violation? They have to KEEP going and cannot stop.
I didn't see the video but you can stop during the run up. You can not stop at the end of it before you kick the ball.
There is no requirement to keep moving forward, or to keep moving at all, during the run up to a penalty kick. Feinting during the run up is explicity allowed by Law 14, and only feinting to kick the ball *after completing the run up* is forbidden.
A couple years ago I'd feel bad for the keeper because it was only by a little bit. But after seeing how well other keepers have adjusted their technique, I'm more inclined to blame coaching. His backfoot being an inch off the line gained him absolutely nothing when he hopped forward to push. Keepers (and their coaches) should know by now how to work the system.
So probably one of the biggest VAR errors for MLS since it's inception happened here. We had on OFR to upgrade SPA to DOGSO, but the APP started with this.
That’s now three cases arguing for the offside lines. But it’s three different clubs. I wonder when someone will put it all together to make the argument.
To be completely honest, I can't see how they missed that even without the lines. Just looking at the grass cuts makes it pretty clear it's offside.
Right. The initial miss—meh, it happens. But the VAR team either didn’t properly clear the APP or cleared it by looking at that image and concluding it wasn’t clearly offside. I’m not sure which option is worse.
Don't have the framerate or resolution available to the VAR, but this is suspect. I have a bit of a better image from ESPN+ that doesn't look any more onside. I think the expectation is that this is called correctly on the field, but the still being so clear belies the actual difficulty here. Attacker coming back from an offside position while the defender is moving the opposite direction. AR isn't quite in the best position to judge at the moment the ball is played. It all factors in. At the end of the day, we have video review to correct misses exactly like this. These are the ones that anyone can look at and say "yep, that's wrong." These are the ones that have to be caught for credibility sake.
If you watch the full speed video you can understand the AR missing it. The attacker was coming towards midfield and the defender was dropping. As for the VAR crew.............................
I went to my first MLS game today. LAFC at ATL UTD. Atlanta United vs Los Angeles FC Mercedes-Benz Stadium (4PM ET) REF: Chris Penso AR1: Jeremy Hanson AR2: Jose Da Silva 4TH: Marcos DeOliveira VAR: Daniel Radford AVAR: Jozef Batko I thought they did a fantastic job. My only pet peeve is Penso did NOTHING for the FRDs. Opponents stood over the ball at virtually every free kick, not counting corners and goal kicks. But I guess that is expected in today's MLS.
To be clear, I agree that the onfield “miss” is one that is very understandable. I always have trouble on those comeback offside calls when the defender is dropping. It’s a really tough call. The VAR team has to catch that one. Like I said, they have the grass cuts to show this is offside. As others have said, VAR was put in to correct exactly this type of play. It’s clear and obvious (with or without lines) that this was not called correctly on the field.
Minor (major?) point here… the original offside decision would never be subject to correction in most circumstances. The play resulted in a DFK and yellow card. The only reason this is subject to review is because the VAR first determined it was a clear red. So this play stretches the “VAR was put in play to correct exactly this…” argument. Because, well, without VAR this is just an attacking free kick. VAR turns it into a (debatable?) red card that should have been cancelled out for the offside.
My brand of hyperbole aside, I wasn't trying to say that video review is here for this specific scenario of upgrading a yellow to red and then wiping it out entirely with offside. I'm just saying that when you have incontrovertible evidence of this nature, you're not going to get any serious push back against there being a clear and obvious error. The expectation would be that this is always corrected should it precede a reviewable decision, regardless of whether the entire review process is understood.
This ticks me off as well, and it's not just MLS. Youth players of course will emulate this, I've even seen young players coached to run up and stand over the ball *during the game*. I would like to see IFAB add the "must be cautioned" language to FRD but even then I wonder if the pro leagues would enforce it.
I agree with you, but that ship has sailed a long time ago. It would improve the game greatly, but the reality is that players have just accepted that it is pretty much just part of the game. No one wants this cautioned unless it's towards the end of the game. Professional referees aren't going to waste their bullets on this unless they really must. It's just not a point of emphasis.
Also at the top level the game has become so fast that even the fouled teams usually will take the 15 second breather and not complain much.