07/20/21 Vancouver Whitecaps vs Houston Dynamo Rio Tinto Stadium (10PM ET) REF: Guido Gonzales Jr AR1: Ian McKay AR2: TJ Zablocki 4TH: Michael Radchuk VAR: Daniel Radford AVAR: Brian Dunn2 07/21/21 Columbus Crew vs Nashville Lower.com Field (7:30PM ET) REF: Rosendo Mendoza AR1: Brian Poeschel AR2: Jeffrey Swartzel 4TH: Elton Garcia VAR: Chico Grajeda AVAR: Claudiu Badea Inter Miami CF vs New England Revolution DRV PNK Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Robert Sibiga AR1: Jason White AR2: Brooke Mayo 4TH: Kevin Broadley VAR: Christina Unkel AVAR: Jozef Batko New York City FC vs CF Montréal Red Bull Arena (7:30PM ET) REF: Ted Unkel AR1: Adam Wienckowski AR2: Ryan Graves 4TH: Joshua Encarnacion VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero AVAR: Tom Supple Toronto FC vs New York Red Bulls BMO Field (7:30PM ET) REF: Silviu Petrescu AR1: Matthew Nelson AR2: Kevin Klinger 4TH: Ramy Touchan VAR: Carol Anne Chenard AVAR: Gianni Facchini Chicago Fire vs D.C. United Soldier Field (8PM ET) REF: Marcos DeOliveira AR1: Jose Da Silva AR2: Andrew Bigelow 4TH: JC Griggs VAR: Sorin Stoica AVAR: Jeff Muschik FC Cincinnati vs Atlanta United TQL Stadium (8PM ET) REF: Tori Penso AR1: Eric Boria AR2: Jeffrey Greeson 4TH: Baldomero Toledo VAR: Kevin Terry Jr AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert Sporting Kansas City vs San Jose Earthquakes Children’s Mercy Park (8:30PM ET) REF: Joe Dickerson AR1: Nick Uranga AR2: Tyler Wyrostek 4TH: Lukasz Szpala VAR: Jorge Gonzalez AVAR: Jonathan Johnson Colorado Rapids vs FC Dallas Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (9PM ET) REF: Jon Freemon AR1: Ian Anderson AR2: Cory Richardson 4TH: Alyssa Nichols VAR: Matt Franz AVAR: Fabio Tovar Real Salt Lake vs LA Galaxy Rio Tinto Stadium (10PM ET) REF: Kevin Stott AR1: Jeff Hosking AR2: Diego Blas 4TH: Michael Radchuk VAR: Daniel Radford AVAR: Brian Dunn Portland Timbers vs Los Angeles FC Providence Park (10:30PM ET) REF: Victor Rivas AR1: Corey Rockwell AR2: Chris Elliott 4TH: Ismir Pekmic VAR: Alejandro Mariscal AVAR: Joshua Patlak
Freemon was wearing a bright pink/orange wristband tonight which was really distracting whenever a card came out, made it look like he was going for a red card.
Joe Dickerson has had kind of a rough stretch of games here when it comes to game-critical decisions. I think this is his third week in a row with either a red card or penalty kick overturned by VAR or the review panel. How does missing a game-critical call impact your assessments when it's able to be corrected by VAR?
Increasingly enjoying Victor Rivas' performances. He's looking increasingly confident out there in bigger games.
Lukasz Spala has had two games with records being broken. Highest DC United win and fastest MLS hatrick.
It at least used to be true that you lost marks for missing the call, but got some of them back for fixing with VAR. (I don't know that the "reversal" by the review panel has any direct affect--that process is not particularly pure. While I would imagine that usually when reversed (OK, suspension rescinded . . .) the powers-that-be responsible for ref evaluation would agree it was a missed KMI--but I'm not convinced that is always the case.)
I thought he was very good in the Atlanta-New England game. Had a strong presence in that game despite having Arena and Heinze on the sidelines.
Has the navy Capelli jersey gone the way of the the grey Adidas ones circa 2013 or so? I don't think we've seen them since the first few weeks of the season. MLS site has all the kit matchups since Week 7 and it's green or light blue in every single match.
07/22/21 Orlando City vs Philadelphia Union Exploria Stadium (7:30PM ET) REF: Alan Kelly AR1: Jeremy Hanson AR2: Eric Weisbrod 4TH: Kevin Broadley VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero AVAR: Jozef Batko Austin FC vs Seattle Sounders Q2 Stadium (9:30PM ET) REF: Alex Chilowicz AR1: Cameron Blanchard AR2: Peter Balciunas 4TH: Elton Garcia VAR: Jorge Gonzalez AVAR: Jonathan Johnson
Watching the ATX:SEA match. I’ve reached the point, as a fan, that I’d rather have goals rather than technically correct offside. ~edit~ As a ref, I understand the desire to be correct, but the current system has too many flaws. AR should keep flag down until after play complete and then AR flags if he thinks it was off. VAR reviews one time only at full speed only and they determine whether the call/non-call at full speed was clear and obvious error. if clear and obvious error, reverse call. if not, call stands.
This was the first time I can remember where the CR appeared to make the offside determination at the monitor (on the disallowed Austin goal), rather than the VAR official in the booth. Maybe my memory is a bit hazy, but I don't think I've seen that before....
In MLS, any time VAR believes the on-field offside decision on a goal is incorrect, they recommend a referee review, and the CR goes to the monitor. This isn't true in (most? virtually all?) other professional leagues - in those leagues, if the VAR says the decision is incorrect, it's changed without review.
Was there a double touch on the kick off that got “overlooked” in the PHI v ORL match. A buddy posted a video of it which I can’t share on another group I read. Sure seems like they let this one go for TV purposes.
I'm pretty sure this is only in MLS. It isn't consistent with the standards, but MLS decided to do it, primarily for optics/selling the call
That is really quite a leap. I think that is one of those things that is easy to miss as it isn't a focal point. Asserting that the R is deliberately ignoring to make TV happy is a really big piling of assumptions.
While I sympathize with the idea, it's wholly implausible. One full speed review is just unrealistic because of what angles they are looking at, etc. Really bad misses would still be missed with that model. I think MLS has the best model right now--no lines, has to be clear without magic lines that the AR was wrong. I think it is the best way of really being focused on clear errors--I don't see any chance that something less than that will ever happen--if we go to less it would be abolishing VAR entirely (and I can't see that, either). If you're suggesting greater delays by ARs on flags than we have now, I think that is a really, really bad idea.
Huh. I still wouldn't assume that was for TV. What evidence is there for that at all other than wild conspiracy theories? I think it more likely that either the R was startled as it was unusual and just made a mistake or there was another issue (hadn't whistled yet?). But if it was an error, that's a pretty huge miss.
Making a mountain out of a molehill here, folks. Yes, the whistle blew, and Nani technically took the kickoff, but look at all the players. *No one moves* for several seconds. There was clearly confusion. Why? I dunno, but it appeared mutual. Further, no one on Philadelphia is asking for or expecting the ball to restart. They don't look aggrieved, just perplexed. What is the benefit in giving an IFK, however technically correct, versus just retaking the kickoff without ambiguity? Is there some great injustice here I'm not considering?
Wish I had the video. The whole thing plays out very strange. Like it’s clear everyone Kind of realizes this is a really dumb mistake by Nani.
Other than it being the law and there really isn’t an excuse not to call it. No. But then you could make that argument on almost every small stupid mistake players make. I’m going to sound like I’m tilting at windmills but these kind of things are why when this stuff happens at the grassroots level no one knows that to do. Just make the call, laugh at Nani and move on. There’s just as little injustice in taking away the kick off by awarding the free kick as there is in not taking it away. The difference is one follows the law.
There seems to be a lot of buzz words here without any consistency. How is a freeze frame of the kick point and OSP that’s visible to the naked eye not a clear and obvious error? Do you think the team that loses on this goal will accept something that is obvious with the still shot not being called because you couldn’t tell with a full speed run through? This forum (and all of Twitter) is littered with fans, players, and coaches complaining about calls and second guessing officials. The resolution shouldn’t be to take away the ones that can be unequivocally shown