2021 CONCACAF Gold Cup Final - USA vs Mexico, August 1st, 2021

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  1. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018


    That is Liga MX defense fault or el Chepo, right?
     
  2. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Are you high seriously?

    I already told you about the CR situation of the goal, can't you read? Like I said, take a breather, you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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  3. revilla18

    revilla18 Member

    Aug 22, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    People hating on Chicharito; is the most absurd thing ever. Numbers don’t lie; he’s scored that many goals for our selección for a reason.

    Also against some top teams in the World Cup. ALSO some major goals for some MAJOR clubs in Europe.

    People hating because he doesn’t “carry” the team.

    That’s not his style of play. He’s a poacher; and to me, one of the best poachers of all time. His positioning is world class/legendary. He’s one of the best at what he does which is scoring goals. That’s his job and he does it well.
     
  4. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lol, I bet if Chicharito had the two clear sitters that Orbelin whiffed last night he would have scored at least one of those and we would be singing a different tune today
     
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  5. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    I don’t know. Won a league title, cup tile, and Concacaf Champions league with a previously dormant Chivas team that as we know only fields players eligible for the national team. I’m no Chivas guy (Santos over here), but his trajectory was pointing up. The Chivas knife cuts both ways: overrated by diehards and chopped off at the legs by Chivas haters. We’ll never know, but the man bled and sweat for a club full of Mexicanos.
     
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  6. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I don't know if it cuts both ways as Chivas is the most popular team in Mexico and thus while Chivas haters hate him, they are outnumbered by Chivas lovers. I don't think his trajectory was going up but it was stable but since it's Chivas, it's magnified. Chivas may have had a weak squad but like I said, it wasn't a major and supposedly in San Jose he hasn't shown much at all.
     
  7. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Martino has a reputation for being stubborn. Had he acknowledged and corrected certain player selections, he might have had decent bench options to choose from instead of Salcedo, Pizarro and Pulido. I’d like to think we also had better players in Liga MX than Jona and Chaka.
     
  8. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    The main thing is that if Funes Mori was subbed out we had Chicharito instead of Alan Pulido. There was the problem that if Funes Mori had a bad game or got injury, that was our replacement. But of course the thing in Mexico was turned into Funes Mori vs Chicharito instead Chicharito vs Pulido, so....
     
  9. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This! The stupid media made it seem that it was Funes Mori taking Chicharito’s spot when in fact it was Pulido. I had to turn off Picante last night because Hugo came out with his nationalist bullshit. The Mexican media is garbage. The sooner people realize this, the better off we will be
     
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  10. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    He could've given Kevin Álvarez a try, at least in the group stage.
     
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  11. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    He stunk it against Nigeria and Tata got scared. There lies the problem of Tata in underrating his team. He thought the team was good enough it was going to win easily the games and thus gave the Gold cup as a consolation price to the players that got cut from Tokyo. And thus we didn't have a bench at all for the competition because he find out fast it was going to be a problem.
     
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  12. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    #687 NCCFBALL, Aug 2, 2021
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2021
    Very well said!
     
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  13. Genos

    Genos Member

    Jun 26, 2017
    I would rather have Vela than Chicharito. Vela always shows up vs the US
     
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  14. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    ITALY
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    And yet one wants to play for the team and the other does not.
     
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  15. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We gotta stop asking for Vela. Coincidentally, the team he wanted to play in is doing well.
     
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  16. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    These comments talk about Mexican football’s faults and how players end up rejecting call ups due to various reasons. In Vela’s case, he doesn’t like how the football federation operates and just says no. There are few who think he would come back.
     
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  17. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Vela is 32 years old. This is not like 2013 when he was in his prime and refused to suit up for his countrymen.

    Let him go y'all. Let a youngster who cares represent.
     
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  18. LAFEFUT

    LAFEFUT Member

    Mexico
    Mar 13, 2018
    #693 LAFEFUT, Aug 2, 2021
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2021
    I believe that most of us agree on giving the young players having a chance. The problem is how to give them playing time on the first team(s) with all of the corruption and extranjeros taking up slots. Santiago Munoz tried to make the jump but Santos lo freno.

    Just an observation from last nights match and not saying that this/they is/are the answer. Cuando O Rodríguez and Tiba Sepúlveda entraron, they hustled and moved quickly and kept up with the pace and more. The sense of urgency that Mexico showed after the US goal is the sense of urgency they should play all matches. Couple that with new endurance training on top of possession that Mexico uses, your game significantly improves.

    Mexico has world class childrens/youth talent and it’s demonstrated through the tournaments Mexico participates in. The problem is when money is involved.
     
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  19. Genos

    Genos Member

    Jun 26, 2017
    He's 32 and would do better than anyone in his position that played last night
     
  20. nopalnation

    nopalnation Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    San Diego CA
    Club:
    CA Monarcas Morelia
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    vela who?




    He’s been dead to me for 5 years now :cautious:
     
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  21. Special_talent23

    Real Sociedad
    Mexico
    Mar 26, 2017
    Es buen jugador y ayer jugó fuera de posición, pero que inflado tienen a Orbelin Pineda.

    El muchacho tiene mucho que mejorar en su técnica individual, drible, toque y visión de juego.

    Es buen jugador pero no le alcanza para ser titular con la selección ni jugar en un equipo de peso en Europa.
     
  22. Special_talent23

    Real Sociedad
    Mexico
    Mar 26, 2017
    Buen comentario, pero hazlos entender.

    Aquí algunos dicen que todo está bien en el futbol mexicano...

    Si no hay cambios ESTRUCTURALES se va a seguir así siempre.

    México tiene 30 años en el mismo lugar y cada vez con menos chances para los juveniles...

    Solo que ahora parece que la curva va descendiendo...

    Lo único que puede salvar estos 3-5 años horrendos es el partido de mañana vs Brasil.
     
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  23. SkiptoMyLou

    SkiptoMyLou Member+

    Mar 20, 2011

    Vela is done with the NT, and I don't blame him.

    Chicharo instead of Pulido would have been a huge upgrade, but Tata is a stubborn ********. Instead he brings Pizarro...
     
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  24. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Real hard truth, you have Chicha tonight you win 2-0. Why in God's green earth did you banish him I mean......thank you, but I still want this to actually be competitive. You guys arent too good to banish either Vela or Chicha. Write your very, very, very sorry notes to them and get them back into the fold or youre in trouble. Might wanna put that "BuT ThEyRe mLs pLaYerZ" pride to bed too. MLS players or not, those guys are respected and guys we have to game-plan against specifically. No one else in that side really does.

    Speaking of MLS, if you guys arent on the white courtesy phones with Araujo and Pepi right now, you are wrong. Araujo immediately improves your team.
     
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  25. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Julian Araujo?? The guy who played in Olympic qualifiers? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     

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